PAB meets tonight; Expo Center soon to be gone
The Planning Advisory Board (PAB) meets tonight at City Hall (3500 Pan American Drive) at 7 pm.
Regarding other recent meeting, last week a waterfront implementation committee met at City Hall. Talk is that the Expo Center will be demolished in October, the first step in the large Waterfront Master Plan project. This will open up the waterfront views. Most feel it will just leave a big hole in the ground, sort of the like the Orange Bowl site now.
"Burn Notice" will be vacating the Expo Center after completing filming their third season in August. They are off to Louisiana for future seasons.
Regarding other recent meeting, last week a waterfront implementation committee met at City Hall. Talk is that the Expo Center will be demolished in October, the first step in the large Waterfront Master Plan project. This will open up the waterfront views. Most feel it will just leave a big hole in the ground, sort of the like the Orange Bowl site now.
"Burn Notice" will be vacating the Expo Center after completing filming their third season in August. They are off to Louisiana for future seasons.
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Well, there goes $5,000,000. Perhaps the local merchants who will be missing that added revenue and those looking for work should go to "rural backward Louisiana " instead of investing locally.Thanks to all of you who gave away 5 million. How shortsighted. When is the next local election ?
$5 million? Where are you getting that number? Im more concerned with the big pile of nothing that will sit there for months, maybe even years.
Actually that is $6 million. It is the money that Burn Notice was spending per year in the community.
So we get to pay $6 million for a hole. Sounds like a typical city of miami great deal!
This last election decision was not at all what I thought it was going to be.
What a shame...
Will
I just hope they do a nice job at clearing the Water Front there, a nice park, with trees, promenades, some simple occasional attractions and a nice WATERVIEW. We have very little of that left in the entire Grove, virtually NONE in the entire South Grove, West Grove of course or central Grove. Zilch. Just very few spots of visible Water along south Bayshore Drive.
Great, unobstructed water Views, with the boats, Sunsets and all also brings visitors, Tourism and spending money instead of Ugly buildings blocking the view, like all those marina Hangars and the despicable eye-sore called "Expo-Center".
The Bay is one of the things that could give a lot of Character and charm to our Village, if we could only see it!
The marina hangars are necessary to a boating community. Has any one seen renderings of what it will look like say 8 months after the tear down.
The sunset is on the other coast, so what makes it look so quaint is the haphazard placements of the boats swinging back and forth at the will of the wind. Get rid of the blocked view at Peacock Park give us a taste of whats to come. Might get more support that way.
Those Marina Hangars could, and should have been placed elsewhere, than right in the Middle of Central Grove/ Begginning of North Grove. (And now they want to build yet another office building next to the Charthouse.. as we all know)
If there had EVER been some half-decent WaterFront planning, which we've never had,until very recently, those ugly boat hangar blocking the entire Waterview at the most critcal place in the Grove would have not received permits. They could have been built further North on Bayshore. Absolutely no foresight way back then.. and that's why we have virtually no WaterFront views, which is what Tourists, Visitors and everyone pay TOP dollar for.
Can you imagine from Peacock Park to at Least Monty's, plus Kennedy Park cleared up of the invasive species (hasn't happenned BTW, where did the money for that study go?), Imagine all of that little stretch CLEARED no hangars, so you'd see the Water, boats, with peers like Grape reports here, promenades, parks, the islands up front, sunrises..
PRICELESS.
What other Villages have the Priviledge of having this beatiful Bay right there? What a waste of a precious tourist attraction, a even more enchanting living Paradise for the Grove..
The City of Miami is closing parks one day a week for lack of funds; they don't even have the money to irrigate or water that land once the Expo Center goes down. Who was the millionaire recently who held a kids event at the Expo Center; that place can still bring in revenue, but the City doesn't get it. Bring back the orchid shows, the home shows, no one ever even goes to Myers Park.
Where can I view the $6 million breakdown of money that Burn Notice spent in the Grove? I'd like to see that. Would be interesting to see where the dollars went.
This is in Miami, not just the Grove. You do realize they pay salaries, eat, drink use hotel rooms, hire local firms, purchase equipment pay for permits, taxes, cars, use electricity, pay insurance and so on?
Contact the Miami Film Office for the details.
Grape, Im not doubting the figure. I found it interesting and just wanted to see a breakdown to see what areas will be affected by their leaving town. Geesh. I did, however, think that you and the anon above were saying they contributed that amount to the Grove so thanks for clearing that up.
It's call the Florida Motion Picture Association or FMPA.
Either way I doubt Blind Mind is going to be looking at their books any time soon.
Don't you people get it.$5-$6 million of income that could have gone to our local area will now be spent in Louisiana.IT IS GONE !! There is NO money that will spent for a new park for a LONG time !! W hen they tear down the "eyesore" do you think a park/garden will appear by magic. It will just be another dirt or cement makeshift parking area.
The idiots are in charge and until everyone can get a candidate that doesn't lie and cheat 2 seconds after getting elected things will stay the same. Since Harry won't run unless he gets some funding and or campaign manager, why don't we all start getting behind Harry? Or maybe Grape for Mayor?
So what are you trying to say? That Im lying? I dont get the hostility, Grape. FYI, I just emailed filmiami.org the following:
Dear filmiami.org,
I was told that Burn Notice would be vacating the Expo Center in Coconut Grove and moving their filming to Louisiana. The information being shared is that this will cost the City of Miami approximately $6,000,000 in revenue. I was interested in this figure and what the breakdowns might be and was told to contact you for this information. Can you provide it? Thank you in advance for any assistance you can offer.
It is my understanding the City is looking at a site in Wynwood for a film studio, so hopefully we will be able to keep Burn Notice in Miami, and/or attract other film industry business to Miami.
There are conceptual drawings of what will be done with the land when the Expo Center comes down. It will be landscaped and will open up beautiful views to the bay as well as give us some green space near the water. At the implementation committee meeting we got an assurance that there will be a plan for the relocation of the trees on the Expo Center site or otherwise within the scope of the master plan (so they won't be snagged by other parts of town).
Blind Mind, I just mean that I don't think the USA network is about to open their books to anyone.
They have nothing to prove. Our City has thrown them out. Not vice versa.
You still don't get it michelle (and others)! The key word is CONCEPTUAL. The area economy lost REAL money ! We spend dollars to attract businessess to relocate to S. Fla. Now that they are here(burn notice)we kick them out! There was an article in the herald a day or two ago about the loss of filming in ALL of Fla. Here WAS a chance to KEEP what we had ! Glad you got $6 mil in your bank acct (and its ripple effects) to blow away ! If I was involved in any long tern project and in the film businesss I would not bring my to project to "business friendly" S. Fla. PS. I am not in the film business (insurance business actually).
Just curious.
EXACTLY how, or where are these alledged 6M being spent, or have been spent thus far? I'd venture to guess no one has a reasonable, verifiable, specific answer to that.
Where, how, when? Restaurants, clothes, Tourism-attraction wild projections; rents (to whom); Sure, it never hurt business at all. Or did it? If you think with some perspective, in time.
I mean, I'm sure the utilization of that decrepit. eye-sore excuse for a building, called the "Expo-Center" dragged some cash into the Grove in certain intangible ways, but 6Mill? Hummm.... sounds like a sales pitch. Good deal, better than nothing FOR THE TIME BEING.
Yet, think bigger: If we built a nice promenade, a great park, some simple attractions there, open air, THE BAY VIEW, I bet the Grove would be much, much better off, even financially.
Sadly, that's all that some of us seem to care about lately, some quick revenue, and for the few, I haven't seen a dime of it yet, have you, neighbors? I'd rather see the WATER there. Pays huge soul "dividends" in the long run..
You know, worthless stuff like sunrises and open space, parks and some air to breathe by the boats..
What's the price tag on that.. and how many more tourists would that amazing scenario attract, for those of us who just have cash in our foreheads?
Carlos Iglesia
.... and a few years, afew decades from now, what would you like to leave behind for your children? That should be the real question. An ugly Building blocking whatever is left of the Grove's bayshore line (almost nothing),
or some piers, pelicans, sea birds, mangroves, kayaks for free, open space, hightides, lowtides with shrimp boats, green grass empty parks, moondawns in and the dark water..
I wonder what's the ROI on that..
Well Carlos- I hope you can buy $6m worth of coffee / food/ gas / lodging/ etc out of your pocket. Or just ask the waiter at greenstreets who went home with an extra $5 bucks in his/her pocket. And people - even if the $ is not spent exactly in the grove for services, lodging / gas/ laundry/ etc - the money flows to ALL parts of S. Fla - even the grove. I did not see a wall on US 1 that said no outside money from other parts of Miami allowed in the Grove. There are great economics 101 courses at night school.
anson 8:17 - My point was that the park ain't coming anytime soon. Of course we all want a great open space for the future, a lot better than the eyesore we have now. But NOW you have a viable business using this. When the bldg is gone and an empty lot is there for years and Louisiana has the money that could have gone in your/my/anybodies pocket --I will accept your apology.
"Well Carlos- I hope you can buy $6m worth of coffee / food/ gas / lodging/ etc out of your pocket."
You have absolutely Nothing to back your 6M with, now do you jkh? OF COURSE not.
You're probably just a business owner nearby, biased, and obviating the bigger and more important picture I tried to describe. Again, if all you think about are quick dollars in your pocket, for some elusive film studio, sorry, but I think about my children or family enjoying the view there, for years to come. need dollars, or do you care next generations? Ok, then Open up the Water Space, whatever is left of it, that is.
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