Grove Waterfront Master Plan
Brant over at "Strange Women Lying in Ponds" has posted the three proposals for the Grove Waterfront Master plan. They are called "Regatta Park"; "Grove Gardens"; and "Flying Clipper". You can download the files below or by visiting Brant's blog.
I don't know if I am sold on any of them. But I do like most of what I see.
I don't understand the idea proposed in one area called "Top Priorities" where it says to remove mangroves to open up the view. Isn't that illegal? And on the same top priorities area they say they want to do environmental restoration, it sort of contradicts itself.
I don't like seeing a "coffee house" in one area and I hate the idea of amphitheaters. I do agree with restoring the baseball field in Peacock Park, they were removed after so many years. I remember watching "Absense of Malice" being filmed at one of the fields close to the water.
I don't like the pictures showing all that concrete stuff, the buildings and some sort of cement wall along the bay. I guess you can't please everyone. But most of it is pretty decent.
Here are the proposals:
Regatta_Park.pdf
Grove_Garden.pdf
Flying_Clipper.pdf
And this this link goes to the Powerpoint presentation, explaining the three plans.
I don't know if I am sold on any of them. But I do like most of what I see.
I don't understand the idea proposed in one area called "Top Priorities" where it says to remove mangroves to open up the view. Isn't that illegal? And on the same top priorities area they say they want to do environmental restoration, it sort of contradicts itself.
I don't like seeing a "coffee house" in one area and I hate the idea of amphitheaters. I do agree with restoring the baseball field in Peacock Park, they were removed after so many years. I remember watching "Absense of Malice" being filmed at one of the fields close to the water.
I don't like the pictures showing all that concrete stuff, the buildings and some sort of cement wall along the bay. I guess you can't please everyone. But most of it is pretty decent.
Here are the proposals:
Regatta_Park.pdf
Grove_Garden.pdf
Flying_Clipper.pdf
And this this link goes to the Powerpoint presentation, explaining the three plans.
posted by Tom Falco at 9:37 PM
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8 Comments:
I like the grove garden best. I must say I LOVE the beach and the picnic area on the spoil islands. I also love the baywalk. I support an amphitheater if its made of natural stuff because i think we enjoy those events in the park as a community and it would be nice to have something for that. Its pretty rough on the grass as is right now.
The one thing i think we should be pushing installation of CDS units to any storm drains outflows in the project area. They will remove all that trash, grease and oil flowing into the water. It would REALLY improve the water quality.
I'm fine with an amphitheatre as long as its profile fits with the landscape (not like the one in Bicentennial Park), and it's built using natural materials, like local coral rock. Better yet, carve it from the existing coral rock.
swilp great idea, carved from the coral parent material would be cool
If you look in to some of the old proposals from when they were planning for Mayfair and the renovations they did to most of Diner key at the time (late 70's early 80's) you'll find alot of these things harken back to some of those old plans.
Getting rid of the mangrove would be about the dumbest thing they could do. There's a whole eco system dependant on the existance of those trees and they keep the land in place! They could take the trees out and put in a wall to keep the soil from getting washed away but then what about the wildlife? Those trees shade the area provide a habitat for several plant an animal species that are dependant on that enviroment and they're georgous in and of themselves!
It won't be long now before I'm older than every plant in the grove and being as I'm mot quite 40 that's pretty freaking sad!
I don't that anybody is going to be ripping out any mangroves. They're protected by State law, and you can only trim them down to a height of six feet or something like that.
The mention of removing mangroves was in a bullet-point list of community input, which is really just a list of things local people had mentioned. It will never happen so I wouldn't focus on that as a critique of the merits of any of the proposals.
"K.I.S.S."
Tear down the ugly convention center and have a simple greenspace in its place. Leave everything else alone (CGSC, Seminole boat ramp, Grove Harbor, shake-a-leg, etc.) Let's not piss each other off with conflicting "visions" and end up with something worse off with more concrete and development cluttering up our precious waterfront than we already have.
Create more green space. Demo the money pit convention center. Create a bay walk that is accessible from south to north. No gaps.
Green is Good.
I wish we all thought this way.
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