Live music tip
I saw this floating around Facebook. What do you think? Good idea?
posted by Tom Falco at 10:00 AM
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I like this idea. Would be happy to chip in a few bucks if it meant the venues would get better, or more frequent bands to play. Better I guess is very subjective.
Whatever happened to charging a cover charge? Seems a lot more transparent than adding on a double-secret "tip".
(Fwiw, this looks like it was photoshopped.)
-- A recovering live musician.
REcovering musician needs to ease up on "medication" - nothing about this is "secret" - it's right there, and honestly is a better idea for both venues and musicians. Cover charges often keep people away, particularly with a band you don't know. So 'working' acts end up playing to the same 25 people every show. Not really good for them either.
And its far better than the cash tip bucket at side of stage - cash is becoming obsolete.
If it goes to the musicians, it's a great idea! If it's used as an excuse for the venue to NOT pay the musicians adequately, it's NOT so great.
If the tip goes STRAIGHT to the music band players, it's fair game.
You can pay it or not, no shame if you don't, it's not a ruse, it states clearly what it is on a separate line.
Heck, if the waitress or server service is no good, I would NOT tip them, and tip the music players only.
How would this be handled by the owner of the establishment? Does one report it for taxes?
Times R-a-changing, but why not, like 11:57 noted, it's right there in front of U. If you enjoyed pay a little, if not, pay nothing. Plus, it's my hunch if folks who like or disliked the entertainment so advised their friends and added/said; "and if you like em you can choose to pay a little gratuity", it might help in getting other folks to go see for themselves. Jobie Steppe
I agree with those who say that it is ok to put the extra tip in there. I've noticed that people these days are so cheap if no one is looking. A woman in our neighborhood found some dogs and took them to the vet; she asked several hundred via a neighborhood website to help with the bill. She asked for small amounts figuring she would get plenty since so many people were contacted. Since I had given her a check she told me that the response was so poor, less than 15 people I think. BTW, these neighbors have money!
If the establishment doesn't skim it I would chip in depending on quality of live music.
11:57 am
So, you're perfectly fine with being levied with an unexpected charge, anytime you patronize a business? Because it's "right there" only in the sense that it's presented to you with your bill. I take it that it leaves one without an option.
Your own comment gives the game away, when you say that "[c]over charges often keep people away." Well, duh. That's because people are given a chance to decide up front whether they are willing to pay extra to hear live music. Stiffing people with a double-secret cover charge, after the fact, is likely to make the customer a permanent non-customer. It also, btw, would probably violate Florida's Deceptive and Unfair Trade Practices Act. Unless, of course, it was prominently displayed somewhere. In which case, what's the difference between that and a cover charge? At least the cover charge is honest and transparent.
In any event, this is probably much ado about nothing, as I'm quite sure that this image was photoshopped.
swilp, you always write a lot of words, but say absolutely nothing. Nothing means nothing! A cover charge provides no info. So, go inside, pay no cover charge and if you like what you hear and see, you have the option to pay a "Live music Tip". Swilp, that's so simple, how can you mess with it!? You comments are so obviously ego self serving just to see your name somewhere, anywhere and are welcomed entertainment as a study for students to avoid such useless empty rhetoric for self gratification.
SWlip - you are an idiot and not a lawyer. I have successfully prosecuted and defended FDUTPA claims, and your understanding and suggestion are silly.
The receipt in the picture provides an option - not a requirement. Do you comprehend the difference between the two?
Its not added to the bill by the retailer/restaurateur, but by the customer - if they so choose. A zero or an X can fit in that space too.
Good day
An unaltered version of the receipt is available online. The name on the card is "Christopher Richardson" and signature "Gibson Cage." There's also various posts and articles stating that the receipt originated from X town with no confirmation of an exact locale that's doing this. So yes, this is most likely fake. Also a terrible idea in practice. Restaurants and bars have been known to skim tips from servers, what's to stop them from taking tips from bands?
You know what? I screwed up by not wearing my reading specs when I first looked at the pic. I thought that it was being presented as an automatically added tip, not an option. Mea culpa.
Anyway, it's a silly thing to argue over, given that it's almost certainly fake.
Right swilp, 1st you say it's this, then you say it's that and when folks say your stupid, you then say it's fake, a rip off, oh, I didn't look closely, I left my specs @?. How old are you?
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