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Tuesday, September 10, 2013

Smaller garage part of new schematic

Schematic designs for the Coconut Grove parking garage at the waterfront project were released and they appear much smaller than previously thought. The garage now accommodates 228 cars, not the 1167 previously calculated by Grove activists.

The plans reflect and enhance the guidelines outlined in the Master Plan.
The low-scale parking garage will reflect the existing architectural style and character of the surrounding area. The facility will feature 1-1/2 levels of parking and 40,000 sq. ft. of retail space. The retails space has been changed from "marine" to "general."

“We are proud of the design that has been developed and look forward to sharing it with the public,” said Arthur Noriega, Chief Executive Officer of Miami Parking Authority.

The garage will be built to consolidate parking in an efficient manner by reclaiming asphalt parking in favor of future green spaces. Other features will include landscaping, such as native shrubs, hedges, flower borders, ground cover, and/or trees as well as a rooftop trellis incorporating a wide array of green designs. The garage will also include ornamental and
sustainable features aimed at retaining the character of the surrounding areas as well as reducing the carbon footprint. 

The parking façade, interior, signage, lighting and landscaping will be designed to maximize human interaction.

Additionally, mirroring the current trends in walkable urbanism, the garage will seize the opportunity to integrate other transportation modalities, such as car- and bike share spaces, valet service and shared parking as well as pedestrian-friendly walkways providing connections to the surrounding waterfront and park.

“There is still a great deal of work ahead of us, but with our continued work with the community will result in a facility that will bring vibrancy, dynamism and vitality to the project, the central business district and the community at-large,” concluded Mr. Noriega.

If the project moves forward, construction is anticipated to start in 2014.

If you have passed by the Expo Center, you would have seen the work crews already taking it down.

Keep in mind about the parking garage that this is not part of the Waterfront Project being voted on in November. The garage is happening either way.

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16 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The vote is just to lease the space not on the plans. They can decide to change the plans once they get the land and it will be too late to get the land back. Don't fall for this bait and switch . Our City Officials are famous for this!

September 10, 2013 7:44 AM  
Anonymous Charles Corda said...

The previous number of "1167 Spaces" was not "Calculated by Grove Activists"..It was PROVIDED by ART NORIEGA and the MPA in their previous designs.

September 10, 2013 7:58 AM  
Blogger Tom Falco said...

And yet you sent me 20 emails that were 10,000 words long explaining the math. Go figure.

September 10, 2013 8:01 AM  
Anonymous Charles Corda said...

You Obviously Did Not look a the Plans provided by Mr. Noriega..

September 10, 2013 8:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone who actually believes this garage will be built with 228 spaces is a complete fool. This is something for Sarnoff to talk up. Nothing more nothing less. They took the Original Drawing from the "Harbour" Proposal and re-issued it with a few additional tags indicating surface parking to take the pressure off. They hardly had to spend anything to get a new drawing.Had they come back with 300 or 400 spaces it might have seemed plausible. 228 Spaces is not plausible.

September 10, 2013 8:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm NOT buying this sudden change.

As noted, they relabeled the parking garage and added 3 smaller surface lots. What happened to the labels for the commercial areas? Removed to highlight the alleged parking changes?

Also, unrelated to the garage or retail, but how will boats be taken into the water? The current route the forklifts take is occupied by a "3,000 sq ft restaurant." Will they share the other launching area with Grove Harbor Marina?

September 10, 2013 8:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The last point is an interesting one, I am interested in how this actually functions.

September 10, 2013 11:41 AM  
Blogger Sledge said...

There's plenty of parking space in the Grove. $3 and 5$ parking right next to Peacock park, for example. And in the streets, I never pay a cent for parking, but after 8 years living here, I know my way around..

My beef with this project, is the waterfront, or lack thereof... Buildings, cars, parkings, shopping malls, why don't they just forbid people to even walk around and see some water? If they are lucky, and know a few spots where to sneak in..
CI

September 10, 2013 12:05 PM  
Blogger Sledge said...

And the parking plans are indicative of the massive commercial project they are planning there by the water.

It's gonna end up bigger than they say. Just because of $$$$$$ concerns and expectations, as usual. The politicians will allow over construction, blocking every inch of water left, as long as there's money thrown out there.

Now they want to build a Mall of the Americas of sorts by the water, to sell stuff.. There goes the vintage Village of the Grove, down the drain, again, a final blow.

Next thing you know, they'll build a hotel blocking the water instead of the sacred mangroves at Peacock park. Just to make sure people make profits and no one can see the bay, boats, or any water. Awesome!

Then they'll somehow find a way to block the few feet of water we can still glimpse at, the Seminole ramp, they'll build another huge marina there, for sure, so you all better start saving to buy a boat, if you live in the Grove and want to see any "bayside water"
CI

September 10, 2013 12:16 PM  
Blogger Sledge said...

And now they are also getting rid of the Historic Scotty's Landing, one of the few places we could walk into and enjoy the Bayside water. To build some concrete crap right in front of the bay.. makes more $$$ of course, dozens of people in that deal will get rich in a hurry, while the rest of us will never set foot or visit there again. incredible.

http://miami.eater.com/archives/2013/06/20/scottys-landing-to-soon-bid-farewell.php

CI

September 10, 2013 12:30 PM  
Blogger Sledge said...

What else will be left by the bay? Monty's is the rip-off of the century, last time I went there, they charge like 18% service, automatic, plus tax, and outrageous prices. A dozen clams or oysters, a couple beers and it's $100 bucks, easily, plus the tip

So to dine by the water, we're gonna have to drive to Key Biscayne, there are nice, affordable places there.

September 10, 2013 12:56 PM  
Anonymous Charles Corda said...

The Existing Surface Lot 67B Holds about 145 Cars PLUS the Adjacent / Contiguous Area just east of the lot 67B holds another 30 or so cars or an Approx. Total of 175 Cars

Why would someone spend $5,000,000. give or take, to park about 50 more cars..
That breaks down to nearly $100,000 per additional Car..?
That doesn't make any sense UNLESS of course the sole purpose of the Garage was to build the 40,000 SF of Retail Space..
Lets see. $5,000,000 for Parking Plus about another $4,000,000. for Retail Space = $9,000,000 Basically to get another 50 Spaces..Sounds pretty bizarre to me..

September 10, 2013 1:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Miami: The Ultimate Pay-per-view event.

Want to see the Bay? Pay for an overpriced meal
Want to use a park? Pay 1.50 an hour parking.
Want to see the ocean? See both of the above.

September 10, 2013 1:34 PM  
Blogger Rooftop Gardener said...

With out a fixed, detailed and officially published plan the Miami Commissioner are asking uninformed voters to say yes to another Trojan Horse or a pig-in-a-poke.

This project can end up being just another bait and switch bad deal pushed by our politicians in their haste. It gives them, and the developer, too much wiggle room as to what will actually be developed.

This is a very important part of what's left of open waterfront land that does not need to be developed into another retail center and parking lot. As noted elsewhere in the Hearld, Miami is short on open space parks already.

But that's up to the voters to decide and I'm ok with that if the Commisioners would just have a concrete plan that is widely disseminated ahead of time so that it could be voted on knowledgeably.

The wise Miami Dade voter will just say NO! at this point.

That's what I'm asking all my voting friends to do.
Let the City get the facts straight, there is no need to rush.

The question is what can we do to get the fact, that there are no concrete facts, to the voters so they know to vote NO . . . at least until the City's plans are concrete and the voters clearly informed.

Tom Boyce
2699 Tigertail Avenue
Coconut Grove 33133

September 10, 2013 2:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Carlos, is there anywhere you can see the bay in the grove?

ps. what do you think of mangroves?

September 10, 2013 4:05 PM  
Blogger Sledge said...

Anon:

If you can read, I've said many times the only spot you can see a few feet of the Bay in the Grove, from the circle to Key Biscayne - 5 miles - is at the Seminole Boat Ramp. That's for the casual pedestrians, bikers or drivers. Check it for yourself. Hop on a bike and try to see some water..

Mangroves? We all know they are beneficial ecologically. But getting rid of a FEW ones on the blocked boardwalk on Peacock Park would clear a great waterview there, as it was for decades before. Trust me, the wildlife would survive. There are thousands of (ugly) mangroves around for the fishies to do their thing.
CI

September 11, 2013 7:54 AM  

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