Boat traffic
Thank you Harry Emilio Gottlieb for the photos.
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I'm glad someone took photos of the traffic debacle yesterday which went well into the afternoon (Obviously Coconut Grove Bank no longer allows boaters to use their parking lot for vehicles and trailers)
The photos should be forwarded on to Sasaki and anyone else involved in the waterfront design. The Sailing Center, BBYC, Coral Reef, Shake-A-Leg and Coconut Grove Sailling Club all have vested interests in making the Grove into a sailing mecca, but what about the other boaters who use Biscayne Bay and put their vessels in at the Seminole Ramp? Where are they supposed to park? When I read about the parking garage that is a part of the ovreall plan, it seems to be one which will provide parking for anyone coming to the park - not for the kind of space required to park a large vehicle and boat trailer. There are woefully few places for the public to put their boats in the water in Miami-Dade County.
As a sailor, I'm thrilled to see the Grove become The Sailing Center, however, the parking for other boaters and access to Biscayne Bay is one aspect of the waterfront design that should not be overlooked
Actually, that is pretty much the scene on any given Sunday, good weather permiting. Yesterday, as I was working all day, I could observe from my corner window the same boat on the same spot in the queue for over 25 minutes without moving. It takes a lot of patience to relax on the water...
I wonder if the people from Sasaki or City Employees every come to the grove on a weekend. When I had a powerboat you had to be by the ramp before 9AM to get into the water in a resonable time frame and this was before the bank closed the parking to boaters.
That line would be cut in half if they actually checked people for valid boating licenses. And if they actually kept a fish and wildlife officer on the ramp at all hours, the number would drop even more. It makes me sick seeing the amount of fish people bring in on their boats and im betting very few people have licenses.
Did you guys ever stop and think that maybe this occurs because the current design does not work either? A lot of you bitch and moan about outsiders "ruining" the Grove with their boat trailers causing traffic or for bringing their own food to the park, but then you go and whine that nobody comes here to support the Grove shops.
Where in Miami ISNT there traffic? Why should one stretch of road be any different? Get over it already. There are plenty of far worse issues in the community and in the world that could use the attention you give to a day of traffic. If you want to bitch just to bitch, fine. But dont use this as an excuse for why the waterfront proposal sucks.
When its time to change youve got to rearrange!
anonoymous had a great thought - -about the boating licenses. however, since one doesn't need a boating license to operate a boat in Florida, that's a solution that doesn't fly. This is not just about traffic conjestion, it's aboat boaters having a place to park their trailers and vehicles once they get past the traffic and actually get their boat in the water.
Would it be possible for boaters to be able to park on "green-space" on weekends when there wouldn't be a big event in the adjoining park. One problem that I see is that to have enough parking for weekend boaters the entire coast would have to be paved over. Then a large area of concrete would be empty 5 days a week and used on two days. Most of the time there is absolutely nothing going on in that barren parking lot. Seems like using a lot of space for a few people for a short duration.
would it be possible for boaters to park on "green space". Most of the time the parking lot is empty. Summer weekends are the exception. Seems like alot of concrete for a few people for a short duration. This way people could park on grass when there were no events or something going on in the adjacent park.
Everyone needs to get out of the way and let the experts do their jobs, meaning the new waterfront plan.
Same is true with the proposed 27th Avenue renovation.
Parking on green space is not a good idea. It ruins the green space.
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