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Tuesday, April 15, 2014

She was given permission to breathe though

At the recent BID meeting regarding the beer and film festivals, one of the presenters for one of the festivals was trying to accommodate all the city rules, but it really is crazy. When asked about port-o-pottys she was all flustered because she didn't know what the correct answer would be. How many did they want, a lot? A little? It was quite comical.

She said something like, "three, four six? is that too many? we'll do less."

She brought up the food trucks and you could just feel every cringe in the room. That's a no no in the Grove. We can't have competition or the illusion of it. Not a good thing.

The poor girl was even questioned about the sound check -- don't make it too long, don't make it too early, don't make it too loud. 

And then someone asked about the size of the crowd. "We don't want it to be too large." We can handle a huge arts festival with 150,000 people or more, but a beer and movie night in the park is being questioned?

Just the fact that people want to come into Coconut Grove and put on events that don't cost the Grove anything is a big plus.They bring thousands of people and they pick up the cost. Why make it difficult for them?

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a joke! but what else should be expected in The Nearby Banana Republic of Coconut Grove.

April 15, 2014 6:51 AM  
Blogger Tony Scornavacca Jr. said...

Yes, we can use more visitors. They stimulate the local economy. Although, the waterfront area of Peacock Park should not be barricaded during these events. It's a public park and that section should remain accessible.

April 15, 2014 7:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Far Away Republic ruled by a nearby closet Republican

April 15, 2014 8:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tony Scornavacca Jr., always make thoughtful intelligent comments. The Grove should encourage and welcome as many events as possible that are of course suitable and showcase our community. These events should have a logo that shows a welcome mat with trees, parks, and/or sunlight shinning through clouds on a glistening Biscayne Bay with Coconut Palms, dolphins, lobster, crabs, etc., etc., & etc..
Jobie Steppe

April 15, 2014 8:49 AM  
Blogger Sledge said...

Well, there's one perpetual crowd-pleasing event going on 24/7, especially f you're an NBA fan:

A manned City of Miami Police car sitting in front of Lebron's mansion at Crystal View Ct., for years now, literally 24/7. What a gift on tax-payers' day, huh. On the bright side, the cost for the cop's salary plus the car, about $1000000/yr, is probably absorbed by all the visitors and tourism it generates. Stop by and visit, you might even get a picture with the idle cop! Go Heat!

April 15, 2014 9:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If she was an insider or a member of an insider's family then the whole meeting would have been on THE express track to approval.

April 15, 2014 10:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The police car by Lebron's is probably an off duty officer paid by Lebron, same that they have in the North Grove which is paid by the homeowners in that neighborhood.

When did the Grovites turn so very bitter that every article posted in the Grapevine leads to bashing Sarnoff and the City of Miami?

April 15, 2014 3:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Agreed anon 3:12, and in addition posting comments in the Grape doesn't mean they are Grovites.

April 15, 2014 3:21 PM  
Blogger Sledge said...

"Probably" huh? And the City of Miami official car is also "off-duty" or just out on summer vacation?

April 15, 2014 3:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Carlos, get some facts and quit making assumptions.

April 15, 2014 4:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Because they deserve it?

Miami Police
The best protection money can rent.
Average citizen gets a twenty minute response time while those with enough money can have their own private cop, using a police vehicle that was paid for with tax dollars, to augment an off duty officers personal income.
That vehicle should be being used somewhere in service of ALL the citizens, not just those who can pay extra. If the cop wants to make cash off duty he should use his own vehicle not one whose gas and maintenance is paid for with tax dollars. If you don't see a problem with an officer selling his services as a personal bodyguard under color of the law, then you are blind. It is selling mercenary services while claiming authorization of said private service by the City of Miami with all expenses, except the officer's time, paid for with tax dollars.

That car that is being used so that a cop can make extra cash on his own hours would be put to better use actually patrolling the Grove instead of parked, idling with the air conditioner on, spending gas paid for with tax dollars, to protect one multimillionaire.

April 15, 2014 5:48 PM  
Blogger Sledge said...

Exactly, anon @5:48

April 15, 2014 6:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The City of Miami provides 1,500+ "take-home vehicles" to City of Miami employees. Yup, taxpayers pay for the vehicles, the maintenance, the fuel, insurance and employees take the vehicles home, even if they live in Broward or Palm Beach Counties. In fact, Sarnoff uses a $115,000 per year on duty policeman driving a new City $60,000 SUV as his 24/7 chauffeur. Your tax dollars at work.

April 15, 2014 6:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sadly, I believe many of these paranoid/obsessive posts about Sarnoff and anything else going on that they disagree with originate from the Grove.

It's ironic that one of the more liberal places in city and county has the most conservative people when it comes to change.

April 15, 2014 9:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


"mercenary services." A bit hysterical, no?

April 15, 2014 9:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sadly, there are still Smirnoff supporters out there. Only question is if they are from his camp or just oblivious to who he represents -- himself & his family/friends club, and nobody else. It is just plain ignorance to say he does not impact all the Grove decisions he chooses to take interest in. It is truly sad that more people do not vote against him, but we can look forward to his term soon ending & having another opportunity to vote someone responsible into the role.

But to get back to the real kooky issue of a beer & film festival organizer being treated as if she is trying to somehow invade this Nearby Banana Republic.... Bring on the festivals! Bring on the food trucks! Neither are evil in any way, shape, nor form.

April 16, 2014 7:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've always wondered about that cop car that sits in front of his house. I always assumed that Lebron would be paying for the cop to sit there and taxpayers wouldn't be footing the bill. If he wants added protection then he can easily afford the bill.

April 16, 2014 7:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is what voting for big government gets you, people.

April 16, 2014 8:46 AM  
Blogger Sledge said...

This thread was not about Sarnoff; just about a City of Miami police car sitting where it shouldn't be, for reasons detailed here.

There are multiple commissioners and countless politicians or representatives responsible for this king of abuse. I would start with the Chef of Police. That car sitting there was paid and is now maintained with tax dollars for Lebron's personal benefit. And he's not even the NBA MVP. That said, Go Heat!

April 16, 2014 9:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is why I only support the Florida Panthers. None of them are abusing your tax dollars. Good guys all around. And now, the #1 pick in the entry draft.

Go Panthers!

April 16, 2014 12:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

mercenary[ mur-suh-ner-ee ]
1. working or acting merely for money or other reward; venal.

Hysterical? No.
Decent grasp of the English language? Yes.

April 16, 2014 12:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do not understand why anyone who lives here supports the festivals in their current iteration. The food trucks are awful. Especially when lined up and their smoke and gassy smell wafing through nearby areas. Any live music is so loud that its impossible to enjoy being outdoors or even the concert. The actual theme celebrated in any of these events is completely obscured by the poorly managed crowds, awful food trucks and all their noise, smell pollution and vendors of bric-bracks in your way. My own conspiracy theory is that once the festival gets approved, someone makes lots of $$$ by allowing the food trucks and small vendors to offer at the festival.

Please no more of this.

April 16, 2014 12:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 12:47 - Go move to West Kendall, it's a lot quieter over there.

April 16, 2014 2:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

or even further west - like much further, the center of the gulf perhaps. That should be quieter.

April 16, 2014 4:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Here's what Merriam Webster says. I stand by my "hysterics" comment, but maybe you can call it semantics.

noun \ˈmər-sə-ˌner-ē, -ne-rē\
: a soldier who is paid by a foreign country to fight in its army : a soldier who will fight for any group or country that hires him

April 16, 2014 6:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It most certainly is a matter of semantics. I have given you the definition of the word as I intended its use. I have given you the form I used it in, as an adjective to describe the word "services", not as a noun. You are being purposeful obtuse by insisting on ignoring my explaining which definition of the word I was using and inserting your preferred definition, even though it is the wrong part of speech as used in the sentence, to support your version of my statement. At the same time you are personally insulting me and devaluating my statement by painting me as hysterical or overly emotional

You focus your disagreement to my statement on the purposeful wrong definition of the word that I used and supplant your preferred definition. Semantics indeed.

Something in your perception must view the officer as a soldier because he is a man in a uniform that uses a firearm as a means of enforcement and think that I am using mercenary as a noun and not an adjective because he (the uniformed officer in a City of Miami vehicle) is hiring out his services to a private entity,

If you insist on using your own definition and use of the word when I am giving you definition that I intended then you are purposefully misunderstanding me and that is part of the definition of a troll so there is really no way for us to have a rational discussion.

Also, I'm afraid you may have a huge misunderstanding as to how the political system in this country works. When a candidate is "running" for office he is not actually "jogging" or "sprinting".

Definitions mean a lot.

April 17, 2014 12:26 PM  
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April 17, 2014 5:13 PM  

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