Before and after
Look at this. Before and after. 3600 Hibiscus, across from Plymouth Congregational Church. Looks like Father Knows Best or Leave to Beaver, used in many commercials. Even had a vine entrance at the gate. White picket fence. Perfect. Now see it below.
Scalped. Prime for multi-unit dwellings. Sad.
Why was demolition approved? This has to stop.
Why was demolition approved? This has to stop.
Proud tree murderers at 4215 Braganza.
There is a petition to save the Park Avenue home that I wrote about earlier in the week, you can check that out here.
posted by Tom Falco at 10:00 AM
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I drive by the braganza/ingraham project every day. The worst part is directly across the street is a perfect grove house complete with pastel colors, a lovely canopy and lawn area with soccer goal, and even a treehouse! THIS is what the grove is about not these cookie cutter modern white POS's that completely stick out and have no business being in the grove. Imagine the grove being protected like an Art Deco district or The Battery in Charleston, leaving what little history we have in miami left.
And nobody can stops this destruction?
Cristina
In Follow-up to our meeting Wednesday evening it looks like we need a working group to address
historic preservation of homes and places in Coconut Grove. If you could spend some time on this please send me an e-mail at savethegrove16@gmail.com
That Braganza house looked real bad in the before picture, and you should never have trees touching your house - I'm sure it was entirely infested with everything imaginable and it was certainly eaten to death by termites. That said, what went in its place was an overbuild for sure.
Maybe it's less that "nothing can be torn down", everything old isn't historic after all and none of you lined up to live in a shack in the woods, and the focus should be more in passing legislation as to limits of design of new dwellings? Focus on making what is being built, suitable. That's easy legislation to pass. It could be done in little time, IF any representative cared about doing so. However, going after every individual construction site will only burn you out and leave you tooo late to stop anything.
Thank you for making this a priority, Tom. The Grove needs your voice
The influx of the new money (bourgeois) looking for acceptance by their peers and 1 percenters. They don't give a hoot about Miami's rich history bc they think we were just a small fishing village before their arrival.
Aren't the Villagers active in historic home and building preservation?
You forget, this is "The Banana Republic"
We used to live directly across from that beautiful house on Hibiscus for 6 years (on Loquat). It was a lush glorious garden that was so well cared for and loved by all who got to walk by it everyday. We've since moved away and I'm devastated to see these photos. I cannot believe it's be torn down and completely gutted. The Grove is such a special place and needs to be protected. Heartbreaking.
For more than 40 years I have been calling for some kind of architectural standards for the Grove. I live is a Dade County Pine Cottage I would like to preserve.
I can no longer afford to live here but no one will buy my house to live in but only as a building site for something which will make me ill.
You all talk a good game but in the end none of you hypocrites will put up the money to preserve our community and buy and preserve these old houses which are no longer economically feasible. If anyone wishes to prove me wrong make me an offer I cant refuse.
Seth Sklarey 305 525-6982
Seth, you may be able to put a deed restriction (?) on your house or find out about the history and have it preserved. That is what I would do, but beware because it will take you more time to sell the house to an actual person and not a money grubbing developer.
Taking into consideration the REALITY of HUMAN NATURE, and I do mean REALITY & HUMAN NATURE; the collective potential of anyone and everyone concerned with this subject matter translates into you're reaping what you'all deserve. Commenting obviously isn't creating sufficient momentum to save one tree, on house or our Grove community. F.I.A.T. [Let It Be Done] rules in the Western World; an unbridled industrial revolution. Imagine that tidal wave in the movie "Deep Impact". You're at the beach with wife, four children & Fido and presto, a 800 foot tidal wave appears - - - - now, that's reality and U can't get out of the way and there's no where to fun!?
10:28am you have no idea what you just revealed in your comment. FIAT's definition is: An arbitrary decree or pronouncement, especially by a person or group of persons having absolute authority to enforce it: The king ruled by fiat. The problem 8n this Banana Republic is it is not what you know, it is who you know and Coconut Grove and most of Miami are sick and tired of your promotion and support of calousness and greed.
12:01 you're absolutely right. That is why Ken was elected over Teresa despite long odds. Hopefully he lives up to the billing.
I anon 10:28 "revealed" that I detest "callousness & greed" and compared it to an 800 foot tidal wave in your face that you can't do anything about! You couldn't stop Mr. Sarnoff, can't save our trees, can't out smart a few pesky developers, save the peacocks, or a way of life you say you long for. What's worse, greed or ineptitude? Of course I know what I revealed with the word FIAT - YOU! There's easy ways to deal with keeping the GROVE, THE GROVE, but it takes making an effort.
The comments bemoaning the development of the Grove, as if it were something new, are useless. Anyone who thinks development in Miami will be halted and "greedy developers" contained is seriously deluded. Name one place in the City of Miami where the government hasn't sided with development. It does not exist. Grousing over this issue is meaningless. If a developer sees an opportunity to make a profit on tearing down an old house and building another, he or she will do it. Human nature. The market economy dictates the rules and Miami's political class is uninterested in preservation. Since there is zero chance of the Grove seceding from MiamI and nobody selling their home will turn down the highest offer if it came from a developer, the residents here better get used to increased density.
agreed anon 5:47. Simple human & animal nature dictates squirrels save nuts, dung beetles save dung, humans save dollars and science proves the universe is held together by gravity. Talking about it won't make a difference. Concerning yourself about your neighbors private property, or the driving habits of everyone else, bicyclist unnecessarily blocking traffic, dress codes, what's politically correct, and over population is okay, but don't get bogged down mentally. Coconut Grove's name is, and will remain COCONUT GROVE, and a handful of developers and nay Sayers can never diminish. The GROVE is unique, will stay unique, will always have Biscayne Bay, tons of parks, a dense, unique tree canopy, and a diverse mix of citizens in the middle of everything Miami, Key Biscayne, S. Beach, and the Florida Keys to the South. Jobie Steppe
Yo, 5:47, I'll name you a place in Miami: Coral Gables. Christ it's in front of your face. We don't need to stop development in the Grove, we need to make sure it's in accordance with the character of the neighborhood as we, Grovites who know the history and what makes this place special, understand it to be.
I have many years of experience (since 1980) dealing with issues like these.
The destruction of Coconut Grove's historic architecture is not a self-fulfilling prophecy or tragic inevitability.
Concerned citizens of Coconut Grove, I'm ready, willing and able to help.
Elvis Cruz 305 754 1420 ElvisCruz@mac.com
PS Why do so many of you post anonymously? Be just and fear not.
Yo, 12:27. Read for comprehension. Coconut Grove is in the municipality of the City of Miami. Coral Gables is its own municipality with a completely different set of laws governing building and zoning. You may as well have made a comparison with Beverly Hills.
Yes Elvis Cruz fought for against Morningside's destruction
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