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Monday, July 07, 2014

Suspicious of real estate drones

Looks like more and more of these real estate drones are taking to the skies of Coconut Grove, but it's not only here. People are seeing them all over the country. Are they needed or are they just a new, intrusive toy that realtors need?

I read in the New York Post recently that the FAA is ordering realtors to court, they are receiving subpoenas requiring them to explain how and why the drones are needed. Many feel that they are being spied on, maybe not on purpose, but they remind a lot of people of those Google cams that catch some quite funny and personal things at times. 

The FAA claims that the drones cannot be used for commercial purposes. Large real estate brokers in New York City and the Hamptons are now having to explain how they are not being used for that purpose. The realtors feel that they are not selling the photos, so it is not a commercial venture. One major issue is that in the city, the density of them makes it dangerous. The main issue is privacy. A woman recently was spooked when she saw a drone outside her 26th floor window in Seattle.

The only reason I bring the whole subject up is because I receive emails weekly, asking me if I know what the drones are, people actually think the government is spying on them, they don't know much about the real estate aspect.

Have you seen the drones in Coconut Grove? They have been taking images of the new condos going up also Center Grove and Kennedy and Peacock Parks. Does it bother you? What if you're on the 12th floor of the Sonesta with the blinds open and a drone flies by or hovers, now what? Do you feel uncomfortable? 

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amazon.com and others are going to use drones for local same day delivery. Can you imagine the day a local restaurant could deliver your lunch or dinner directly to you in a flash? There needs to be a local low flying drone flight path created to accommodate the inevitable of traffic. But please do not let Sarnoff get involved otherwise it is going to sit on the shelf like Ygrene funding for residential solar until he figures out how he can benefit from the whole plan.

July 07, 2014 10:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What does Sarnoff have to do with this post? It's about the realtors and the FAA.

July 07, 2014 1:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I forgot that the use of Drones is only acceptable for the Government.

July 07, 2014 1:47 PM  
Anonymous Drone Law said...

The FAA's claim that it has outlawed all commercial drone activity is a load of crap. In fact, the FAA recently got its butt handed to it by an administrative law judge who concluded that the FAA has never promulgated compulsory regulations governing the operation of "model aircraft" - i.e., weighing less than 55 pounds, flying below 400 ft at least 5 miles from an airport, and operated within line of sight. The fact that such aircraft might be used for business or pleasure is a distinction without a difference.

That's not to say that other concerns are no implicated. If someone violates your privacy or tresspasses on your property, you might have grounds for a civil suit or a criminal complaint. But those are matters for the local courts and police, not the FAA.

July 07, 2014 2:16 PM  
Anonymous Drone Law said...

PS I'm a fellow Grove-ite and welcome the opportunity to answer specific questions about drone law and regulations. Feel free to drop me a line at my website.

July 07, 2014 2:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My family was at Peacock Park a few months ago and this guy kept flying his drone ridiculously close to our kids and would practice hovering in front of their faces as they played soccer. It creeped us out. My husband went over to tell the guy to back off but when he saw him coming he took his remote and brought in his drone and left. Pedophile? Who knows but it certainly made us more than uneasy. Not a fan.

July 07, 2014 3:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That drone situation in Peacock park is really annoying. There was a guy flying one around at the boat ramp, but at least he wasn't buzzing people.

There needs to be regulations on drones. All it takes is for one to stray into commercial airspace for a disaster to occur.

July 07, 2014 3:52 PM  
Blogger Tony Scornavacca Jr. said...

We realtors pay regular photographers and drone photographers for property pictures that will appeal to viewers. ... Yes, I can understand why those little flying gizmos would be a nuisance.

July 07, 2014 11:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you dont like drones you really are going to hate the near future.

July 08, 2014 4:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you see one over your property, shoot it down. IF you can stand your ground against a person, you can against these stupid nuisances.

Honestly, they need to be outlawed. No one should be able to fly any drone anywhere, except over land they own or in a permissive use space like the model aircraft spots.

pick up a small gauge shotgun and let's end this madness.

July 08, 2014 5:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Drone = new trending word for rc planes and helicopters

July 08, 2014 8:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love my drones and my freedom to own one

July 09, 2014 8:43 AM  
Anonymous Drone Law said...

Anon at 5:32 PM:

I'm going to assume you're not a troll and take your comment seriously.

"... or in a permissive use space like model aircraft spots."

There are no legal restrictions on where model aircraft can be operated, as long as the operator stays below 400 feet, keeps his aircraft within line of sight, complies with local laws and respects property rights.

But if you decide to shoot at one, keep in mind a couple of things:

First, you will destroy someone else's property, and could subject yourself to criminal charges and a civil lawsuit.

Second, depending on where you are, discharging a firearm for any reason other than lawful self defense can be a serious crime.

July 09, 2014 8:58 AM  
Blogger Tony Scornavacca Jr. said...

Good information, Drone Law. Good username, also.

July 09, 2014 11:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Drone Law:

If a drone flies over my property, and I feel threatened, I may shoot it down.

The fact that a dangerous machine controlled by an amateur nitwit is near my home and children puts me in fear of the bodily safety of my family.

Short answer, I can shoot it, and will gladly countersue in any civil suit, and would fail to be charged with a crime.

July 10, 2014 11:27 AM  
Anonymous Drone Law said...


I won't belabor the point, except to note that your understanding of the law of self defense is dangerously off the mark.

Best of luck!

July 10, 2014 2:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actualy you cant shoot it down.help me howard had an episode on this topic and said that legaly you cant shoot it down.the most you can do is sawt it daown with a towel.

July 10, 2014 10:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hmm, anonymous guy with an anonymous blog, claiming to know the law... 9-1 odds drone law is not an attorney.

Anon at 11:27 was closer to an actual theory of law than anything I saw in a quick review of Drone Law. Although it appears that understanding is likely from outside FL.

July 11, 2014 12:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Per 11:27, can I shoot down airplanes and helicopters that I feel may be dangerous to myself or family? They are far more dangerous that radio controlled helicopters or planes.

July 11, 2014 3:11 PM  
Anonymous Drone Law said...

Anon at 12:51 PM

I am a licensed attorney in the State of Florida. But you don't need an attorney to figure this stuff out.

The law on discharging firearms within the city limits or in a residential area are available online to anyone who wishes to look them up, as is the law of self defense.

July 11, 2014 6:03 PM  

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