The Scotty's RFP is in
IS THIS THE NEW COCONUT GROVE WATERFRONT?
OK, The RFP's are in for the Scotty's Landing site. There seems to be only one!
There were two, but one dropped out. Veleta dropped out, not sure why and the remaining proposal is by Harbour (rendering above). There is a casual waterfront proponent to the proposal and the rendering looks beautiful.
Michelle Niemeyer, the Waterfront Liaison for the Coconut Grove Village Council, was up all hours of the night putting this Drop Box together with all the plans and proposals, including the Waterfront Master Plan.
"The next steps will be a recommendation to the City Manager by the Selection Committee. The City Manager then makes a recommendation to the City Commission. Assuming it passes the City Commission, there would be a referendum of Miami voters to approve the lease," says Michelle.
Click HERE for the Full DropBox presentations. Some highlights include:
Some of the items from Harbour's proposal for "The Harbour in Historic Coconut Grove"
Retail totaling 20,000 square feet inside an entirely renovated South Hangar, with emphasis onmarine-related supplies and equipment. As with the North Hangar, it will be thoroughly modernized and historically restored. An additional 2,700 square feet of convenience retail will be located in the space between the two hangars.
Preservation of all large trees existing on the property, particularly the signature banyan, which will anchor a new park. Banyan Tree Park will be a significant one-third acre in size, a passive area for relaxation and recreation open to the general public, and other open, green areas dot the site. Plantings will feature species native to Florida and dominant in Coconut Grove, and building materials and pathway pavers will use coral rock and other natural materials.
A monument and/or exhibit in the central roundabout at the heart of the property, celebrating the rich aviation history of Dinner Key and Coconut Grove. Intended to grow awareness, for residents and visitors alike, about the importance of Miami in the pioneering days of U.S. aviation, the installation will result from our proffered collaboration with HistoryMiami, our community’s leading historical association.
A four-story parking garage with 526 vehicle spaces above 40,000 square feet of ground-floor retail shops. We propose for the garage to be directly accessible from South Bayshore Drive, with a curvaceous and soft-edged street-side wall and a densely foliated trellis canopy atop the entire garage, presenting a lushly green panorama to our neighbors across South Bayshore Drive. A “knee wall” design element will prevent car headlights from shining out and into nearby condominium windows at night.
Design Team:
Bernardo Fort-Brescia, Arquitectonica International
Jeremy C. Gauger, ArquitectonicaGEO
David Shea and Tanya Spaulding, Shea
Juan Berry, Berry Design Studio
Construction Team:
John Brown and Jose Garcia, All-Go Construction Systems
Steve Ryder, Bellingham Marine
William Roof, Roof & Rack Products
Consulting Team:
Richard J. Heisenbottle, R.J. Heisenbottle Architects
Jose Muñoz, BCC Engineering
Anthony M. Graziano, Integra Realty Resources
And here is the Village Council Facebook Page. The VC is asking for your ideas which they would like to pass on to the Selection Committee for the project.
There were two, but one dropped out. Veleta dropped out, not sure why and the remaining proposal is by Harbour (rendering above). There is a casual waterfront proponent to the proposal and the rendering looks beautiful.
Michelle Niemeyer, the Waterfront Liaison for the Coconut Grove Village Council, was up all hours of the night putting this Drop Box together with all the plans and proposals, including the Waterfront Master Plan.
"The next steps will be a recommendation to the City Manager by the Selection Committee. The City Manager then makes a recommendation to the City Commission. Assuming it passes the City Commission, there would be a referendum of Miami voters to approve the lease," says Michelle.
Click HERE for the Full DropBox presentations. Some highlights include:Some of the items from Harbour's proposal for "The Harbour in Historic Coconut Grove"
Retail totaling 20,000 square feet inside an entirely renovated South Hangar, with emphasis onmarine-related supplies and equipment. As with the North Hangar, it will be thoroughly modernized and historically restored. An additional 2,700 square feet of convenience retail will be located in the space between the two hangars.
Preservation of all large trees existing on the property, particularly the signature banyan, which will anchor a new park. Banyan Tree Park will be a significant one-third acre in size, a passive area for relaxation and recreation open to the general public, and other open, green areas dot the site. Plantings will feature species native to Florida and dominant in Coconut Grove, and building materials and pathway pavers will use coral rock and other natural materials.
A monument and/or exhibit in the central roundabout at the heart of the property, celebrating the rich aviation history of Dinner Key and Coconut Grove. Intended to grow awareness, for residents and visitors alike, about the importance of Miami in the pioneering days of U.S. aviation, the installation will result from our proffered collaboration with HistoryMiami, our community’s leading historical association.
A four-story parking garage with 526 vehicle spaces above 40,000 square feet of ground-floor retail shops. We propose for the garage to be directly accessible from South Bayshore Drive, with a curvaceous and soft-edged street-side wall and a densely foliated trellis canopy atop the entire garage, presenting a lushly green panorama to our neighbors across South Bayshore Drive. A “knee wall” design element will prevent car headlights from shining out and into nearby condominium windows at night.
Design Team:
Bernardo Fort-Brescia, Arquitectonica International
Jeremy C. Gauger, ArquitectonicaGEO
David Shea and Tanya Spaulding, Shea
Juan Berry, Berry Design Studio
Construction Team:
John Brown and Jose Garcia, All-Go Construction Systems
Steve Ryder, Bellingham Marine
William Roof, Roof & Rack Products
Consulting Team:
Richard J. Heisenbottle, R.J. Heisenbottle Architects
Jose Muñoz, BCC Engineering
Anthony M. Graziano, Integra Realty Resources
And here is the Village Council Facebook Page. The VC is asking for your ideas which they would like to pass on to the Selection Committee for the project.
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23 Comments:
Left out the most important info? Who are the principals in this deal?
I hope it doesnt end up like that dump we can bayside.wow that place is bumm infested and full of dominoe tables.with nothing to see or do
Waterfront ? I only see a 4 story garage and buildings -- water views ? Nothing ever changes ! What is the difference between waterfront buildings blocking the view there and foliage blocking the waterfront in Peacock Park ? So you knock down the the convention center to see the new buildings ?
How long until the protests start. Someone is about to scream "corporate takeover of our tiny, quaint village", without realizing the irony of their cry being 20 years too late.
This looks like if could be nice, but is there no middle ground?
I want to see the plans on how all this "traffic" is going to get in and out of bayshore. As it is today, US1 is completely backed up during rush hour, along with Bayshore, so how does this city plan on dealing with that!! In my opinion..NO thought! and why do we need another Bayside!! Overtime this "new place" will be nothing better than Bayside, because this city always wants the next new thing and doesn't upkeep what it currently has.
I like it, a modern waterfront and old Grove next door, trolleys and buses can fix any traffic problem.
Go to the Dropbox link and look at ALL of the documents, particularly the illulstrations in The Harbour "technical proposal" (right after the full project narrative). Site plans, elevations, etc. all there. Superior public access and view corridors to the water, a safer and larger dry-stack boat storage facility, enormously more green space (except for what's under roof and for boat storage, 50% of the site is public, landscaped green areas), two formal restaurants instead of one, and on and on and on. Look for yourself -- it's all there in the Dropbox.
So to celebrate the history of the Grove they're tearing everything out, building everything up several stories and putting in more shopping while ignoring real Grove landmarks and letting historic locations like the Convention Center, Coconut Grove Playhouse and Peacock Park fall into such a state of disrepair that they must be torn down.
The three main centers of Coconut Grove's artist community history ignored, left to rot for the last 20 years and scheduled for demolition and the PR for the new waterfront is trying to sell some sort of historical awareness angle along with 20,000 sq ft of new shoppinog space for drunk tourists.
"There is no there there"
- -Gertrude Stein
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We have no trolleys, only their garage and if you think the buses in the area are any real use you must not use Miami public transportation.
COOL now we can move ultra music fest over here and some hip hop concerts too.RAP BY THE BAY
It adds to Coconut Grove wit a nicer greener and cleaner waterfront and the historic neighborhood should be restored at the same time.
I wonder why people don't look at the entire proposal before rushing to judgement. What I notice is that the ground space that is now an asphalt parking lot will be changed to make 2/3 of it green space. The parking lot by the South hanger is now green space. The boardwalk is a lot bigger and now has a public pier. More than half of what is now a grimy dry stack operation is going to be safe to walk around and let us see the historic hangars up close. I can't say I trust the city to build it but I will say that I like the proposal. Just my two cents.
Scotty's is currently an eyesore, and a total liability in pretty much every conceivable way. This does look better, and might actually be nice if it comes out anywhere near what is being proposed. The problem is, things, particularly in Miami, don't often come out the way they were proposed.
All in the name of progress.if you ask me the whole cocowalk should be torn down.and start over.as far as the playhouse it should be torn down and made new closer to the water maybe even as an amphetheather or water arena.something new.and why not build a water park even better miami needs one.THINK PEOPLE THINK!!!!!!!!!
The renderings look great, a ton of green space, view corridors, better public access and restaurants. 1000% better than what is currently there. Don't see any negatives to this!!
preserve history, yet tear down? will the chart house stay?
Take it all down its time for change
Scotty's is disgusting and smells bad everywhere, people go because the location, I go lol.. Time for somebody else to milk the cow, just hope it didn't turn into a snob like lounge brickell type. We'll see, pum!
To the person that stated trollys and buses will take care of the traffic.....What Trolleys and buses, and HELLO this is Miami, no one takes public transport here!! So the residences of the Grove will be stuck with the headache of even more congested roadways. Nice they have a garage in the plan, but the people have to get there first!
I think anything is an improvement over what is currently there... The Chart House, Scotty's and an old, old, old marina. People come here for the view... And the view here looks much nicer from a new restaurant than an old crappy one. Plus, looks like you don't have to worry about getting killed by a boat truck/crane. Can't wait!
I always wonder why don't we have a (small) beach in Coconut Groe??
Regarding the development of the Grove Key marina and Scotty's; that is really interesting stuff, and as someone said, who are the principals? And is anyone naive enough to think that all the millions that have been promised to the city will ever be paid? And what will be the penalty if they are not? And who is capable of overseeing and managing a project like this long term? Just read what is said about Bayside, and the Coco Walk area, etc.
It seems to me that the majority of residents are not from Florida, and the historic importance of the area is of very little importance to their everyday lives. Schools, parking, roads, property taxes and insurance are of much greater concern to most people.
There is no doubt that the marina and restaurant location could be tidied up a lot, and I have never heard of the supposed massacre of innocents trying to gain access to Scotty's Landing for a meal or drink, by out of control boats or fork lift trucks, and I find the smell of well cooked food most appetizing, is certainly lures me, the place does not smell unpleasant at all, as there is always a nice breeze coming off Biscayne Bay, and one would have to go a long way to find more pleasant staff, and tasty and well priced food and drinks.
When all the supposed millions have been spent, it will have to be recovered, and that will price out all but the most wealthy tourists, and they have plenty of other places to have their wallets emptied, why come all the way to the Grove, when they can save money and stay on South Beach? Coconut Grove is Coconut Grove. Nuff said. John
John, you must be thinking of another Scotty's, becuase the one in the grove has terrible, over-priced food, horrible service, warm beer, and smells like someone tossed a match onto a pile of old wet leaves, covered in dog hair and tar. Oh, and let's not forget that you'd better have hobo stab insurance.
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