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Monday, October 19, 2009

Village of Center Grove meeting is Wednesday

The Village of Center Grove meeting is Wednesday, October 21 at the Sailing Club (2990 S. Bayshore Drive) from 7 to 9 pm.

Reports on upcoming village events and past events will be on the agenda and the 16 candidates for Village Council will speak and introduce themselves. As you may remember, they were rudely interrupted by outside forces last week.

Each candidate will be given two minutes to address the following:
What distinguishes you as a candidate?
What do you hope to accomplish as a member of the Village Council if elected?

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14 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Grape I am going to have to disagree with you on this one.
The Village Council was going to break the law and they were stopped. If they would have gone on with it...
who knows what the Manager would have done.

October 19, 2009 8:18 AM  
Blogger Tom Falco said...

Probably not a thing, when are people going to stop being afraid of their own shadows?

October 19, 2009 8:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dissolution of the Village Council.

Your attacks on Sarnoff is one thing.

He is a person. He can be replaced or removed.

The Law is the Law and must be respected.

October 19, 2009 9:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd rather have the candidates respond to a list of specific Grove issues, with their clear positions and/or proposed solutions. (intead of the usual political, vague tirades). For instance:

Where do you stand on the following issues, what specific, hands-on, practical courses of action would you propose:

- Waterfront (Or lack thereof)
- Sidewalks ('''''''''''''')
- Bike Paths (ditto)
- Parking fees and excessive ticketing
- 3am vs 5am closings
- Glasshouse's future
- Theater
- Parks, invasive species and dog field mines.
- The Grove's deplorable, almost laughable misrepresentation at City Hall.

Etc. a dozen specific items which could be addressed in writing, with concrete viable ideas or solutions.
Carlos.

October 19, 2009 9:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eerybody has great ideas but they never implement them - no one is stopping anonymous above to email the candidates and get their positions on certain issues. They would rather have other people do it. That is typical - they are too busy but assume the rest of us are not.

October 19, 2009 1:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon @ 1:51PM.
Please note that I put my name next to the post you refer to. How do you know whether or not I have e-mailed the candidates? Or If I've met some of them and probably will soon meet them all? And do you have any clue as to my past and current endeavors working Directly with the City, specifically regarding some of these issues, on my own time?

BTW, after re-reading my 9:54am post, I'd like to clarify: The Grove's Village Council does excellent work attempting to represent the Groves' local interests and concerns. They volunteer their time and are heard by the City. However, as we all know, the City of Miami often does what it wants in the end, and Coacoanut Grove Village is often grossly disregarded and misrepresented.
Carlos Iglesia

October 19, 2009 2:50 PM  
Anonymous that guy said...

Hey 9:16 am - I have asked you, and Sarnoff and Nelson and Hernandez to please explain how you believe this alleged law, to which no one can provide a citation (I've reviewed every applcable law on Municode and the Fla. Stats.) and how it would apply to candidates for the village council, WHICH IS NOT A PUBLIC OFFICE.

Please someone who is so sure of the law go ahead and provide a citation.

October 19, 2009 5:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

5:06
You never asked me. I dont know who you are.

Moving on; the problem was inviting the Mayoral Candidates

Village Council may very well be a public office, you go to election, the meetings take place in our City hall. There is a staff etc.

But what I know? I am just a casual observer.

October 19, 2009 7:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 7:49 - There is no staff for the Village Council, unlike many of the other actual City agencies.

October 19, 2009 8:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If people vote for Village Council on a City of Miami ballot, doesn't that qualify as a campaign and an election. I think Village Council people ( or let's call them the Village people)only want to be considered elected when it is convenient for them and when it's not, they want to go against the City's rules.

October 19, 2009 11:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about the people who record and put it on TV?

I know; semantics....

October 19, 2009 11:49 PM  
Anonymous that guy said...

Anon 7:49: I have made at least 3 or 4 posts asking for one of the several people who have argued adamantly that it would have been illegal to broadcast the speeches of the village council "candidates" (term used loosely, since this is not a public office) to direct me to some municipal code, statute or other rule of law.

No such response has been received. I have spent ample time searching myself under Chapter 16 of the Municipal code, which controls elections and Title IX of the Florida Statutes re elections and electors, and found no such rule.

I renew my request for education.

October 20, 2009 9:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

that guy,

I can't speak for whether Village Council is considered a Public Office, but...

Read Florida Statutes 106.15 subsection (4). It prohibits soliciting or accepting contribution in government buildings. It would seem to me that if any of the candidates were to say "please support me" that it could be considered a solicitation and therefore cannot take place in a government building.
Do village council members fundraise and/or accept contributions. If not, then please support me would simply be a request for a vote and not a contribution and would then be okay.

October 20, 2009 6:28 PM  
Anonymous Michelle Niemeyer said...

Anon 6:28, I wonder how that law applies to Commissioner Sarnoff posting an invitation to a fundraiser for Regalado IN THE WINDOW AT THE ENTRANCE TO HIS COMMISSION OFFICE? Hmmm.

I can't speak for all candidates for Village Council, but I am not fundraising or taking contributions, and even if some candidates are doing so, the intention of the Village Council meeting was just to give all the candidates an equal opportunity to introduce themselves for two minutes.

The basis for the City Manager's action was a legal opinion and rule written when Linda Haskins was trying to avoid attending a forum for City Commission candidates the oouncil organized when she was running against Marc Sarnoff and a field of several others. They kicked us out and we reconvened at St. Stephens.

October 21, 2009 6:41 PM  

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