Is this a Brazilian Pepper tree?
Regarding the Brazilian Pepper trees at the post office, I only brought up the subject because more than one person was concerned and they also got the Miami Herald involved.This is what the plants/trees look like.
Lili Dones cleared it up and left a comment on the last post regarding her inquiry to Jim McMaster, from the Tree Man Trust. Jim says:
"The trees at the Post Office are Dahoon Holly. Native, good choice. The ones they installed are good trees. The females have berries so they may be mistaken for Brazilian pepper. There are no Brazilian pepper trees on the Post Office lot."
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I'd be more worried about that pink thing at the bottom of the picture.
What would Lili and Jim have to say about all of the invasive non-indigenous species left at Kennedy Park? Brazilian Pepper, Sea Mahoe and a few other species identified, -- and still marked with bright Orange paint -- by the Works Dept.? 945 specimens, most of which are still there, including the Aussie Pines. I wonder where the funds for that erradication project ended-up. CI
Thank you Lili for clearing that up. Its great to hear that we have native species at the Post Office.
Hoorah one less conspiracy theory in Coconut Grove. I was wondering how you all were going to try and tie Marc Sarnoff to it. ;)
Definitely NOT Brazilian Pepper. They have a distinctive leaflet structure. That actually looks more like female dahoon holly which is a Florida native. Linda
Just came back from Kennedy Park and it is literally INFESTED with Seaside Mahoes. There's also Brazilian Pepper, for sure, especially on the North side.
Plenty of humble pie being served up at the Grapevine this week!!
CI-
I don't know Lili personally, however I am almost positive she does not work in public works, capital improvement or anything else in the City regarding that. I am sure she think that the pines there suck.
So, should be called out or penalized for clearing something up?
Of course if I am incorrect on any of this feel free to correct me. I apologize if I overstep my boundaries as well.
Gifted-
Right, I just read that Lili was somewhat involved or at least knew some of the people who were supposed to erradicate the invasive species from Kennedy Park back in November 08. She wrote about it here in the Grapevine. Public Works along with the Environment&Historic people were supposed to accomplish this, (they hired a private study firm, 945 trees to come out), and they did not do the work, as you can see if you go to the Park. I lost the e-mails I had from them, tough to find them now and hold them accountable.
thanks. CI
I think the berries are poisonous too
Nice to see they've planted a native species, albeit as REPLACEMENTS for the beautiful mature mahogany trees they chainsawed down. ::facepalm:: D'OH!
I ated the purple berries... tastes like burning...
it is not a Brazilian pepper.
-a botanist
Funny, everyone's comments dodged the first inquiry about the funny pink thing! Hysterical!
CI
"What would Lili and Jim have to say about all of the invasive non-indigenous species left at Kennedy Park? Brazilian Pepper, Sea Mahoe and a few other species identified, -- and still marked with bright Orange paint..." Below is the resolution passed by the Village Council regarding Kennedy park last fall. I will ask the City's Parks Department for a status report. Thanks.
COCONUT GROVE VILLAGE COUNCIL
Resolution
As per the meeting of November 9, 2008
Whereas, the mission of the TreeWatch Committee of the Coconut Grove Village Council is to protect and promote tree canopy in our community, and, to that end, examine, and if necessary, challenge plans for its removal, and
Whereas, the TreeWatch Committee of the Coconut Grove Village Council also recognizes the City of Miami’s movement to eliminate exotic and invasive species from South, in order to improve its eco-system, and
Whereas, the TreeWatch Committee of the Coconut Grove Village Council is aware of the City of Miami Parks and Recreation Department’s project to clear the mangroves within Kennedy Park of said exotic and invasive species, specifically, Seaside Mahoe, Brazilian Pepper, Casuarina (Australian) Pine, and some palm trees, in order to improve the ecosystem and enhance the shoreline of the park, and
Whereas, the TreeWatch Committee of the Coconut Grove Village Council recognizes that many of the trees within the “upland” area of Kennedy Park are Australian Pines, which, if all removed at once, would considerably limit the canopy of the park, and
Whereas, Liliana Dones and Jim McMaster of the TreeWatch Committee of the Coconut Grove Village Council were invited by City of Miami Parks and Recreation to walk the park and review the trees slated for removal, and make their recommendations as to the which trees they wish to save from removal,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE COCONUT GROVE VILLAGE COUNCIL:
1. To approve the City of Miami Parks and Recreation Department’s removal of Seaside Maho, Brazilian Pepper, Casuarina (Australian) Pine and other invasive exotic species from within the mangrove areas.
2. To approve the City of Miami Parks and Recreation Department’s removal of about 60 Casuarina (Australian) Pines located near the shoreline of the Southern portion of the park, which are bent, badly topped and in poor condition. (see map item 9)
3. To request that the City of Miami Parks and Recreation Department not remove for the time being, Casuarina (Australian) Pines located in the upland area of the park, away from the mangroves; as well as 8 Casuarina (Australian) Pines on the Southern portion of the park, as identified by Liliana Dones and Jim McMaster during their walkthrough.
(see map, items 1-8)
4. To request that the City of Miami Parks and Recreation Department not remove 3 Washingtonian Palms located in the south part of the park on the north side of the field, which stand out from the mangrove area. (see map, items 10, 11, 12)
5. To request the removal of an Australian pine, not on the removal list, located at the very northern, front end of the park, which is in very damaged condition that presents a potential hazard to passersby. (See map item 14)
6. To request mitigation in order for the canopy to be replenished.
Thanks for the info. Mrs Lili Dones.
I understand the were efforts like this back in November last year. There was actually a very specific study they e-mailed me with the results a the survey from a hired professional, with about 945 trees/plants indentified as non-indegenous or invasive. They painted some of those with bright Orange spray, which you can still see today at the park.
And I understand that some of the Australian Pines were supposed to stay.
But the fact of the matter remains that all of those efforts and monies spent have been lost thus far: Especially when you look at the Infestation and proliferation of the horrible Seaside Mahoe all over the park. There's also some Brazillian Pepper trees and several other nuisances still there. The only good thing I've notice this past year (I run or walk through that Park several times every week and live a block away) is they cleaned up a few areas, cut a few Mahoes (improperly, since they are growing back stronger than ever, no uprooting or herbicide) -- and they planted quite a few nice Oak trees all over.
Please keep us posted, who can I call or e-mail? What happened to that project, where did the money go? The park is INFESTED with Seaside Mahoe, which kills even the beneficial, tough mangroves.. Thank you, Carlos Iglesia.
I also
Carlos: fyi
On Sep 2, 2009, at 1:12 PM, Gonzalez, Raphael wrote:
Lili,
We are waiting for the September FIND Grant approval/meeting. As a result of the shoreline stabilization grant application being approved, we will coordinate with the upland project and replanting of natives.
Raphael Gonzalez
City Of Miami
Parks Operations Coordinator
Lili, so the City of Miami never approved a Grant to execute the invasive species erradication project at Keneddy Park? Who paid for the independent study which found the 945 trees to be removed, and painted them Orange? Not to mention all the meetings between numerous "officials" to discuss this matter?
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but this looks like a Classic example of political red-tape and misuse of tax-payers' monies. The bottom line is Keneddy Park is still Infested with Seaside Mahoes and other invasive species, and nothing has been done in over a year now since all of this project started getting paid for.
Who is responsible? Is Mr. Gonzalez still in Public Works for the City of Miami? I intend to pursue this issue until someone explains in clear words exactly what happened here. Thanks Lili. Carlos.
oh, sorry this was from today, by Mr Gonzalez. Still, it's been over a year now since this "project" started and nothing yet.. Can you send me Mr. Raphael Gonzalez's direct contact information? thanks, Carlos.
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