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Friday, December 19, 2008

Code Enforcement discussed at Village Council meeting

Last night at the Cocoanut Grove Village Council meeting, the Code Enforcement issue was brought up again.

Director of Code Enforcement Mariano De Mola was present and he was kind enough to answer all questions thrown at him. He said that Code Enforcement went out to Commodore Plaza restaurants and bars because residents complained. But he wanted to be clear that many complaints came from other businesses -- businesses complaining about other businesses. Jealous business owners reported others.

Mr. De Mola went on to say that Code Enforcement is aggressive with tree cutting, garbage dumping and things like that, but he said that they are not aggressive with restaurant permits and issues regarding that.

Council Member Felice Dubin (right) brought up the subject of rudeness of the code enforcement officials and their nasty attitudes in the middle of the night. Mr. De Mola did not believe that his officers were rude to anyone, but it seems there is not only Code Enforcement out in the middle of the night. There are many forces at play.


There is some group called "Club Safe" that makes random visits to clubs and restaurants. They now are being blamed for the harassment, too. Public Works also came in and inspected and the Fire Department did, too.

So now it is a case of the Police, Code Enforcement, Public Works, the Fire Department and Club Safe all converging on the Grove all coincidentally in a two week period to wreak havoc. Can that be?

Dave Collins, council member asked if "Coconut Grove brought this on itself?" being that businesses complained about other businesses.

John El-Masry owner of Mr. Moe's and Christabelle's Quarter stood before the Council and reiterated what he said at the merchants meeting the day before, that he feels that there is a movement to phase out anybody who sells alcohol. He believes the step up of enforcement has more to do with the "new vision," of Commissioner Marc Sarnoff than with resident and business complaints.

He asked why the inspectors don't check the shoe stores or clothing stores? And why they don't hassle people in other areas of the City? Which doesn't seem to be happening according to other business owners in other parts of the City.

John went on to say how the inspectors come in the middle of the night, week after week, asking for the same licenses. He wondered if that is harassment.

Village Council chair Michelle Niemeyer asked why in this computer age, does Code Enforcement or any of the agencie have to come out to see licenses?

As John was talking at the podium, Comm. Marc Sarnoff surprised everyone by showing up at the meeting. He came up and said that over a dozen restaurants in the Grove have complained about other restaurants in the Grove. He also said, he was not responsible for the 3 am bar closings alone but felt it is a good idea so that the people leaving the bars at 5 am don't collide with those going to work at 5 am or running or bicycling at that early hour. The bars and clubs can actually remain open, they just cannot sell liquor after 3 am.

John wanted to know why the rest of the City is not saddled with the 3 am closings. Aren't they worthy of the same protections? Why just the Grove? Wynwood and other areas have 24 hour licenses to sell liquor. Don't they have people going to work at 5 am or bicyclists or joggers, too at that hour?

Comm. Sarnoff did say his vision includes everyone -- old, young, UM students, etc. But I did find it very telling about the many complaints by restaurant owners against other restaurant owners. If this is the case, and I believe Comm. Sarnoff, then the Grove is killing itself. I can actually see one or two people out there calling in complaints.

Comm. Sarnoff said that the noise issue is the main thing. It always has been, it always will be. And it probably will be the same in seven years, after he leaves office. Yes, he said that, "seven years after I leave office". He believes in
The Secret.

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20 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Didn't Commissioner Sarnoff have the law changed as a vendetta against John El-Masry for supporting Frank Rollason?

December 19, 2008 10:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...but felt it is a good idea so that the people leaving the bars at 5 am don't collide with those going to work at 5 am or running or bicycling at that early hour"

Sarnoff has Absolutely no idea of what he's talking about here. When has he seen a runner or biker out there at 5am?? Once last February?
They are extremely rare at that hour, it's pitch black, even darn cold sometimes, no light now until 6:30 am, people who have to be early at work go out to run or bike at 6am at the earliest. And 99% of us don't get out there until 6:30, 7am.

So Sarnoff alledges that there would be a big "Clash" between drinkers getting out from bars at 5am (very few anyway, and mostly Fridays/Saturdays only) and the Non-existent 5am bikers and runners? He obviously never gets out that early himself so he has no clue.

December 19, 2008 10:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

John ~

Had you supported Commissioner Sarnoff for his run for office the 5:00 AM closing would not have changed and become an issue; but like he promised, he will work with you. !!YA RIGHT!!

December 19, 2008 10:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

everyone knows which business is always complaining against others....

December 19, 2008 11:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, there are runners and bikers out at 5am. Just because you say we are not there doesn't mean we aren't. Do you think the people that live in the Grove go somewhere else to get in their early morning workout? For many of us, the only hour we get to ourselves each day is early in the morning. I'm not saying I'm for or against 5 am closings. Its just that there should be a good police protection if the bars remain open. Drunks can be a bit obnoxious in the early morning hours, but a good runner can usually outrun them.
If Sarnoff thinks he's closing the bars for people like me, maybe he should have asked our opinion. The only problem I have encountered wouldn't have been a problem had there been a few cops around (instead of hanging out by the waterfront). When bars close, whether its 3 or 5, there should always be a strong police presence.

December 19, 2008 12:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 12:50

The point is there are VERY, very, very few runners out there a 5am. As an avid daily runner and Biker myself, who has lived in the Grove for over 3 years, and with a direct plain view from my Balcony on Bayshore drive all the way to Peacock Park, I can tell you that much. Very, very few runners or Bikers that early, even on weekends. I know just about every Biker Group here, the Johnny Rockets bunch, Bike Tech, Don pan, Circle, you name them. The earliest these groups leaves is 6; 6;30 am, most at 7am now. Sure, there maybe a few Cats who wake up a 4am, to leave at 5am and return at 6am to get ready for work. How many?

The notion that there would be some king of conflict between these very few 5am runners or Bikers (you'll see one every half hour) and the few "aggresive drunks left at that time is just ridiculous as an excuse to shut down the Grove too early and hurt business and people's Freedoms on top of it so badly.

Actually, instead of having some many idle Cops just sitting behind stop signs or giving parking tickets, how about having a half a dozen of them from Midnight till 6am around all the Bars, Commodore, Main Av, Starbucks, Mc Fairlane, etc? Outside. if they see a drunk, beggar, local homeless guy harrasing our Patrons, book'em! As simple as that, problem solved.

December 19, 2008 1:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Sarnoff really cared about protecting citizens from drunks on the street at 5 a.m. he would have proposed a city-wide ordinance. The law he proposed doesn't even affect the Loggerhead, which is still allowed to be open until 5. He was catering to a few favored supporters who live near the commercial district, and as a result has hurt all of our businesses as a lot of people planning a late night now go straight to Mary Brickell Village, Wynwood, and other places here places stay open later.

December 19, 2008 4:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Visionary,
The fact remains that the 3am closings did not just damper the bar business! It had a trickle down effect on all of the business owners.People that drink that late also eat before they go home. The late night food business is gone. Oh, except for Mr. Flanagan who somehow remains on an island in the grove. He is laughing all the way to the bank. I bet he votes for Sarnoff next time... I guess the runners dont go down bird road either...

December 19, 2008 4:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm even thinking of printing these and other comments from other blogs, adding just a nice red Xmas red ribbon, and living them with my hilarious buddy there at the City Hall entrance, just to make sure Mr. Sarnoff reads everything all of us Grove people in the know write here.. why not.

December 19, 2008 6:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Code Enforcement gives hassle to anyone or any business because of another person or business complaining, then Code Enforcement is not doing its job right to begin with.

Bring back 5am liquor license for El Masry, if he had a license why was it a problem to issue it to begin with. He built his business around this niche, I think he may have a legal right to have the license back.

December 19, 2008 7:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, I hope they allow the 5am drinking again. Mr. El Masry will hopefully make enough money to replace the atrocious TVs that line the bar at Moe's. They all have either no picture, blue picture, or red picture. Id be watching the NFL games there instead of Sandbar if it wasnt for that crap. Well, that and Sandbar tacos...

December 19, 2008 9:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

which restaurant is always calling the code enforcement against the other restaurants??

December 19, 2008 9:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sarnoff and Code Enforcement always do the smae thing blame others. It's easier for them that way they do not have to take the heat. Nelson does the same thing wasn't me, it was an anonymous complaint. Bullsh... they are the ones behind the complaints!

December 20, 2008 11:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If code enforcement must be out at midnight why not ticket the cars that block the
right of way. They are MacMansion driveways blocking the right of way at all hours in front of their MacMansion, they don't use their driveways they park right up to the protective fence and by god you have to walk around those fancy vehicles to get by. Parking any gas powered vehicle on pedestrian walkway is illegal. Have at it.

December 20, 2008 3:16 PM  
Blogger Tony Scornavacca Jr. said...

The voters of Coconut Grove decided that 3:am was a good time to stop selling alcohol.

They felt that there is no benefit to the community by selling alcohol until 5:am.

If you disagree, then bring it back on the ballot.

December 21, 2008 7:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The voters of coconut grove? There was no vote. It was all a push by Sarnoff. All this has done is ruin business in the grove. Ask any of the local merchants.

December 21, 2008 4:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bad Timing,

All of this stuff is just bad timing... I can understand both sides but this is not the time for cutting back hours on any business or jamming code enforcement down business owners throats... Leave them alone and let them enjoy what is left of thier business.

December 22, 2008 12:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are many factual reasons for not selling liquor after 3:00 am. The City of Miami Police provided reams of evidence showing many arrests and police calls to bars between the hours of 2:00 am and 5:30 am. And the Police identified many traffic stops and arrests due to drunks leaving Grove bars after 3:00 am. And many Center Grove residents complained about drunks leaving bars and clubs between 4:00 am and 5:30 am making noise, urinating on private property and causing various damage to property. If someone wants to drink themselves stupid let them drink until 3:00 am. But enough is enough. Who wants to be responsible for a drunk running over a jogger or some child walking to school? There were numerous public hearings.

December 24, 2008 9:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Anon 12/24

Educating Voters Again...

You just don't get it. That vote so you call it may have solved your immediate problem but it created an even bigger one. What about the restaurants and pizzerias that served food untill 5am??? Remember, they can't use a dinner cook that comes in at 5pm to close the kitchen at 5am, it is too much overtime. Your vote for 3am laid off an entire shift of people! Not to mention taking away 25-30% of thier revenues. Great job!

Oh yeah, We are guys we pee outside all the time whether we are drunk or not...

December 26, 2008 3:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Restaurants can stay open and serve all the food they want. Restaurant owners can adjust the shifts any way they want. A goal is for restaurant owners and bar owners to get customers to come earlier. If customers come earlier than retail stores and art galleries have a chance to benefit.

December 27, 2008 9:03 AM  

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