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Tuesday, July 08, 2008

Advisory Board approves Waterfront Plan

The Waterfront Master Plan was presented to the Advisory Board tonight by the Sasaki Associates. If you click on the image above, the final draft will open.

Basically it's like this:

The waterfront will connect with the Center Grove, allowing easy foot traffic between the two. Along the process, the parks will all connect and be improved aesthetically.

The Chart House restaurant area will be used for commercial charter boats and working shrimp boats. This is part of phase one. There will be four phases. Lilliana Dones, Village Council member and President of the Chamber asked about the four phases: Why are there four phases, what is the purpose of the order of the phases and how long will it be between phases? That never was answered.

A three story garage will be built along South Bayshore Drive, camouflaged by vines and foliage. It will have retail space on the ground floor, mostly boating and nautical interests, and will not compete with Center Grove businesses.

The plan for McFarlane Road is to have the north bound lanes only as one lane, with parallel parking and the south side will be wider, used for pedestrians, connecting Center Grove with the waterfront, including the Commodore Bike Trail, which will run along the east side of South Bayshore Drive, too.

The Expo Center was brought up a lot. It seems like many feel that since it is bringing money into the area, why rush to bulldoze it? There is no reason other than "seeing action." This was the term used. They feel that this will show that something is being done.

Ron Nelson, Chief of Staff for Comm. Marc Sarnoff and David Collins, head of the BIC and Village Council member also feels that the time has come to get rid of the Expo Center. Michelle Niemeyer, head of the Village Council felt the same. So did Stuart Sorg, head of the Advisory Board.

Others like Sue McConnell feel that we should keep it as a movie studio until the final phase and that there was no rush to demolish it. Wendy Kalimar, on the Advisory Board, felt the same because it brings publicity and residual money to the area. As I have stated, no one is against razing the building. But why not leave that for the last phase and take the money and publicity it brings in now?

Many felt the Seminole Boat Ramp should stay. Others felt that Mathson Hammock was where boaters should go and that the Seminole Boat Ramp didn't accommodate enough people now to stay. I still don't get the whole idea of a waterfront without water access. Wendy Kalimar, who also runs the Orange Bowl Youth Regatta (the second biggest money maker for the Grove after the Arts Festival) was really flummoxed. Stuart Sorg felt the Seminole Boar Ramp launching ramp was critical and should stay.

He is very pleased that the dock masters office will stay. He is for the shrimp boats having easy access in and out. As Lilliana Dones said, the shrimp boats make the waterfront "real" and not "Disney World."

One resident who I really liked was Andy Hancock who said, "It ain't broke, why fix it?" While he reminded me of a cheap neighbor in my building who never wants to spend a penny, he felt that a boardwalk could be constructed and trees could beautify the area, without the City spending millions on redoing what does not need redoing. He also was for the movie studio staying put.

Stuart Sorg and many others want the Sailing Club to stay as-is. "Don't mess with the Coconut Grove Sailing Club," was how he put it.

He also said the best thing to do is NOT be a partner with the City simply because people come and go. The Waterfront Working Community should stay as it is.

Anyway, this all goes before the City Commission on July 24 and basically it all looks like a done deal.

The Waterfront Advisory Board voted tonight 6 to 2 in favor of keeping the Sasaki Plan. There was a motion, which passed 6 to 2, to add the boat ramp to the plan which makes total sense since the whole plan is based on the water.

The funny part is that no one really knows where the money is coming from, how the project will be paid for and when and where to start. They feel that demolition of the Expo Center, is the first step.

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11 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did anyone mention City Hall? Am I the only Grove resident who see’s it ridiculous that everything around the water front is changed, improved, touched up or somehow effected and City Hall sits there like if it is untouchable. Phase 1 should include moving City of Miami out of the waterfront plan and making the Pan Am building the anchor center of our new Park.

July 08, 2008 9:41 PM  
Blogger Tom Falco said...

Apparently City Hall is staying put.

July 08, 2008 11:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

According to the plans a large three story parking garage is just feet from S. Bayshore Drive. How is this less ugly than the current Expo Center/Movie studio?

July 08, 2008 11:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Move City Hall? and what ruin the views for the Mayor, City Manager and Commissioners! What a perfect place for a community center.

July 09, 2008 7:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the Expo Center is so unsafe, why do they have City of Miami offices in that building?

July 09, 2008 8:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sure there's bound to be a huge amount of controversy, infighting, changes and corruption. Overall, however, I think it will be great for the Grove (and the Gables south) when we have so much green overlooking the bay.

July 09, 2008 9:55 AM  
Blogger SteveBM said...

Grape - thanks for the kickass recap of the meeting. Im sure others will agree with me that you do a great job at keeping the community informed and I definitely appreciate your work on this site and the exchange of ideas & opinions.

On the Garage - doesnt seem like there is a need for more parking in that area, but maybe thats just me. Also, didnt they just open up a place for marine supplies next to Fresh Market? At least the vines will keep it camouflaged. Why cant that be done for the Expo?

On the Expo - "seeing action" raises huge red flags. I dont get what ridding the community of the EC will accomplish. Ooooh look! An extra 50yds of ocean view! Big deal. Why not make efforts to book events there? I go to TONS of conventions all over the country and having a convention with a nice community to stay/eat/shop in afterwards is a huge plus. Miami Beach Convention Center is getting all of that biz right now. I also commented in Grape's other post about keeping the EC as a movie studio that it creates a draw and some publicity which our community could definitely use.

On the boat ramp - If youre a "boating community" dont you kinda need a boat ramp? Where is the VP of Common Sense?

On City Hall - Maybe we should call Washington and ask to move the White House too because that land could be a park? People need to get over the whole City Hall on the waterfront thing. It was built years ago and it aint likely moving so quitcher bitchin.

The funny part is that no one really knows where the money is coming from, how the project will be paid for and when and where to start. This is definitely funny, especially (as another poster noted) since the City cannot fund a mass-transit system that we DESPERATELY NEED. Not only do we have zero mass transit and a shitload of traffic but now they are going to make us pay fees to ride on 95 if we dont want to sit in traffic! I find that insulting and completely absurd.

July 09, 2008 11:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with you that we should support more film production.

I also agree that a film studio does not need to be on waterfront property.

But I hope that you will agree with me that City Hall and unworthy politicians also dont need to occupy prime waterfront property.

Lets indeed find a warehouse in Wynwood or Overtown for a film studio.

Lets also find a location in downtown for City Hall where they can be a lot closer to city problems and have a better chance of fixing up downtown.

How ironic to read two Herald columns yesterday.

One for the plans to improve the waterfront that includes demolishing the Coconut Grove Expo center and the other celebrating the positive financial effect the renting of it to BURN NOTICE has had.

Yesterday BURN NOTICE was filming on Grand Ave in front of the Coconut Grove Elementary School.

The Grove was filled with excitement and pride.

We could sure use more of that.

The only reason the Expo Center is in shambles is because Miami did not book enough quality and well paying events to help pay for its maintenance.

I like parks as much as anyone, but to allow that building to decay for lack of maintenance is a crime and burden on us taxpayers.
But then they have lots of practice with neglected buildings such as our Miami Marine Stadium.

I understand that a community generates something like a 4 to 6 multiple on every dollar of incentive provided to the film industry.

It is a great economic generator of business and makes a huge profit for our community.

I cant understand the logic in not continuing it.

We could sure use more film production and fewer condos.

Harry Emilio Gottlieb

July 09, 2008 7:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's move City Hall downtown - maybe in the Macy's building. I like the idea of turning City Hall into a community center - we could put a bar on the Mayor's patio.

July 09, 2008 9:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about, demolish them all and let Cocowalk sort it out. We could have 7 Chili's, 8 Hooters, and 5 Cheesecake Factories. And maybe, if we really want the king of crap, Cocowalk could put in a dozen Applebee's -- on the water. Sweet.

July 09, 2008 10:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Overwhelmingly, this new waterfront plan appears to be the #1, best improvement to Coconut Grove that has ever been suggested. If this was your house, it would be like converting your yard into Fairchild Garden.

July 10, 2008 8:02 AM  

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