Cup full of parking tickets -- is it trolley time?
I go through so many parking tickets in a week. It would be nice if Grove residents could buy monthly passes or something. I live in North Grove and I guess I could bike to Central Grove, but I drive like most people because I am all over the place (Grove, Gables, Brickell, South Miami) and I need the car. While I love to walk and bike ride, I work for a living and don't have time to leisurely ride my bike all over the county, as some would suggest or threaten that I do.When I am in New York, Boston or Cambridge, which is often, I walk or use public transportation. Maybe the Grove could use a trolley that actually goes where you want to go -- not a retrofitted bus, but a real trolley. Maybe some of the money they are pissing away on the Midtown Miami Streetcar that will only go a few blocks could be sent to the Grove to travel our major streets here.
Even Coral Gables has a trolley that picks you up at the Metrorail station and brings you to Miracle Mile and environs -- for free. We could use that in the Grove, it's easier to navigate than a streetcar and can be done faster. It can wind through smaller streets and the route could easily be changed when needed (i.e. to avoid certain streets during Arts Festival time, etc.).
The key is making it free, like Coral Gables, and making it go where people want to go.
posted by Tom Falco at 7:56 AM
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I think all of the city centers (Grove, Brickell, Coral Gables, etc.) should be connected with some type of real trolley system (dare I say street car...). It would just make so much sense. After all, just think how much money everyone would save - perhaps one less car per family, less insurance, and less fuel.
-Bill Anderson
Streetcars, properly, are a pain in the ass, especially the SFO ones, which have no windows. Imagine a rain!
However, a small bus (many cities, including Madrid, where I'm from) have "Micro Buses" that seat about 20 people and move in smaller streets. Mexico has them too, and I used them a lot when I lived there.
A free micro-bus in the Grove would be a superb idea!
I totally disagree - I lived in Zurich for 4.5 years and street cars worked fine, in fact they are wonderful.
Micro Buses are OK, but dedicated tracks (with priority) for street cars are much faster in traffic, and a good addition to a city that will require some type of mass-transit beyond a fossil fuel system (e.g. an electric street car - or tram). But, the centers need to be connected so people can truly move between areas IMHO. So why not invest in the future?
why doesnt miami do what some many foreward thinking cities do and look into lightrail. They are quiet and attractive trains which can run through a standard intersection or move along a large transportation corridor like adjacent to a freeway. I used to take it to downtown denver all the time. Its fast, clean, and was used by key ridership including students and buisness people. It greatest strengh is its ability to integrate existing forms of transportation be it trains, planes, or autos.
It could to existing metrorail raised tracks or if modified eventually run on them (they are much nicer trains to ride) and it can come right down into an area like the grove or miracle mile and work seamlessly with traffic.
Here are some pics
http://www.flickr.com/photos/denverjeffrey/251381336/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adam_holloway/701489815/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/visual_infrastructure/483249202/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/heyitsme_23/281575670/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/80651083@N00/414695175/
We had streetcars in Madrid for years (mainly, my parents had streetcars, because they were practically obsolete by the time I was 12 or so). Dedicated tracks or not... they seriously sucked.
Best thing the Govt did was to add the micro-buses. Fast, cheap, reliable, good seating, big windows... a delight. They have dedicated bus lanes in Madrid, of course, but no reason why they would not work well in the Grove.
On the other hand, the Grove itself is really small... maybe what, 4 square miles?
A system of streetcars would require tearing up the streets for months to lay down tracks, which would probably bankrupt all the vendors.
A few microbuses are cheap to buy, cheap to operate and can be done from one week to another.
aventura, sunny isles and north miami have a set of blue mini buses that work within each city. then, they also travel outside into the other named cities to keep everyone connected. its great having the free bus come by 7 days a week every hour, rain or shine. parking at aventura mall is horrible and this bus system saves the day!
i think if they can do it, surely coconut grove can have something similar!
Good heavens man! If Sarnoff sees all that paper and realizes how many trees were cut down to produce those tickets, you will be incarcerated!
Nah... all he needs to do is "talk" to someone in Sarnoff's staff, and they all go away!
one of you said, "imagine a rain. " referring to streetcars? How about imagine a rain and trying to get those parking tickets out of the machines and back into your car-that REALLY sucks and most of us have experienced that. (and tried to help the tourists who constantly can't get a ticket out)
The grove is seriously deficiaant in bike paths-how many of you almost got run over while riding home from the art festival? Or any other time-lets face it the commissioners and all the other people responsible for the lack of services, lack of trees, and poor space planning have screwed up and don't care. Actions REALLY DO speak louder than words.
wouldnt it have been nice if the city took the $1 BILLION DOLLARS that they spent on the financial disaster that is the PAC and the new Marlins stadium (which will be a total failure) and spent it on a public transit system? Nah, that would make too much goddamn sense. Oh, not to mention that we now have to pay a premium to drive in a special lane on a TAXPAYER FUNDED INTERSTATE if we dont want to sit in traffic due to the fact that we have no public transportation here? When does it end? The pubic is sodomized on a daily basis by these douchebags.
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