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Friday, August 05, 2016

Protecting Coconut Grove with Historic Designation

Miami’s two most historic neighborhoods are not designated "Historical." Lemon City will now be called Little Haiti. Coconut Grove keeps losing its trees, historical buildings to accommodate more white contemporary houses and the expansion of Brickell South with more condominiums.

But Buena Vista and Morningside have been able to save some of their uniqueness and history with Historic Designation. They accomplished this by rallying the residents and business operators with the idea that saving their community would improve the quality of life, increase property values and be more profitable.

Isn’t it time that Lemon City and Coconut Grove did the same?

 Harry Emilio Gottlieb
Coconut Grove

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Anonymous Charles Corda said...

Harry I AGREE!.. The Grove has more historical importance than just about all the other Miami / SF neighborhoods combined..
It's time..If you start a movement or petition I will be your first signer.

August 05, 2016 8:56 AM  
Blogger Lance said...

Harry how old is the house tha you live ? Do you have a septic or swer? Side walk in front? Impact glass? Insulated walls?.historic designation lower the value of you property any improvement will cost you three times more , ask the owner of stirrups properties the city historical department force him to install wood frame windows.Wood frame widows are not approved for impact then consecutively shutters have to be added.The historical department have a buget to help ? .The list of requirements is long and very expensive , be very careful what you wishing for . A agree on preservation of wat we have now like side walks , safety, prosperity, new business, parks , order . Never understood why people get mad regarding white houses, perhaps we should sign a petition to paint the White House red or blue .

August 05, 2016 10:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


August 05, 2016 2:21 PM  
Blogger Elvis Cruz said...

In response to Lance's comment, I live in an historic house. I can assure you that historic designation does not lower property values, to the contrary.

Windows are not required to be wood. Apparently someone gave you misinformation on that.

Impact windows are allowed, and they are available to match the original style.

Historic designation is the best thing that ever happened to my neighborhood, Morningside. It has preserved the look of the neighborhood, and property values have gone way up. Ask any realtor.

Elvis Cruz
631 NE 57 Street
Miami, FL 33137
305 754 1420

August 05, 2016 3:05 PM  
Anonymous Charles Corda said...

Elvis is absolutely correct.. Take a look at the property values in Historic areas to see what happens..Its a win- win for everyone- except the developers who are undermining the essential character ,ambiance and historic importance of this beautiful special place.
Check out the property values in local places like Buena Vista and the Deco area of South Beach, and the Historic Neighborhoods of Savannah and Charleston, Greenwich Village in NY and similar places.. In every historically designated area I know of property values have risen significantly while the beauty and significant structures of each area have been preserved..The Grove should have been designated Nationally "Historic" a long time ago.

August 05, 2016 4:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Historic Designation increases values. Miamians generally have no knowledge of history. What a shame Keon Hardemon, Ken Russell and 3 other commissioners voted 5-0 to erase Lemon City, Little River and Edison. There was almost no discussion and no debate. It appeared that every vote was decided before commissioners walked in the room? Should Coconut Grove residents be worried? Yes.

August 05, 2016 7:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 7:40 PM
Coconut Grove residents are indeed worried, since they are in the same leaky boat as Lemon City. It is Open Season down here for developers that have paid to play by funding the elections of Commissioners. They have little respect for our zoning even though Miami-21 was supposed to protect us. Removing the ability to up-zoning or split-zoning must be taken away from Commissioners. If the Grove at least had some proper Historic Designation Overlay, we might have a bit of protection. If not those same Commissioners that changed the Name of Lemon City to Little Haiti might wish to some day do the same here. Please stand up to them and take the Lemon City vs Little Haiti issue to a judge that grew up here and know the value of our history and is willing to protect it and reversing the poor choice to change it to Little Haiti.

August 05, 2016 9:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Went to look at a boat for sale in the WPB, FL area. Every home was old, no exceptions. My wife inferred an interest to check out some prices with the boat owner, who said "Go figure, some homes go for $100.000.00, and other similar homes go for $400,000.00". There were tall ones, short ones, long, and wide ones, single & double stories and many, many trees and noticeably lots of parking spots, not a ton of cars parked all over or traffic on the thorough's. I've slowly learned all of these MacMansions, with numerous auto parked halfway into the street in the Grove has made life much, much, much less appealing that what I saw in this WPB area. Jobie Steppe

August 07, 2016 4:47 PM  

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