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Saturday, May 25, 2013

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I was going to publish a story on the sad state of affairs at the Coconut Grove playhouse this week, but the Miami New Times beat me to it and they even managed to get ahold of the actual photos and make a whole story out of my pictures , so here's the story

My point was going to be that this is the entrance for thousands of people into the Grove. This is the first thing they see. All of our neighbors to the south, including new neighbor, Christian Slater see this mess, as they enter the Center Grove. 

I like the last line of the New Times story, a quote by Harry Emilio Gottlieb, "This blighted condition would not be tolerated by the county, City of Miami or any municipality if it was a private residence or commercial building."

True that.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

paint some ugly graffiti on it and we can call it are own wynwood lol

May 25, 2013 9:14 AM  
Anonymous Al Crespo said...


So you took some photos, gave them to Gottlieb,he sent them off to whomever, probably including New Times, and they used them.

Don't blame New Times. Blame yourself, you're the one who gave them to Gottlieb.

As for the appearance of the theater, I seem to recall that David Collin's claim to fame, and the reason he was hired as the Coconut Grove BID Executive Director was a position paper that he supposedly authored about how to deal with the problems of the theater.

After all the hundreds of thousands,if not a at least a million dollars collected and spent by the BID, how much money - after you subtract the hundreds of thousands of dollars that went to pay Collins - was spent on trying to do something about the Playhouse, even to dealing with the external deterioration of the property?

If it looks like shit today, it looks that way for a reason. As usual, you and Gottlieb and all the others who keep whining about the theater are wrong.

The property that the theater sits on is a very valuable piece of property, and by hook or by crook, its evident that one fine day a bulldozer will come along and knock it down, and some fancy condo/retail establishment will be built, and as a sop to all of you it will be named Playhouse Plaza, or some other in-you-face bitch slap.

The screwing that the folks in Coconut Grove keep getting, is one that you all continue to deserve for allowing all of yous elected officials, including Commissioner "Ethics" to bend you over and screw you every which way but loose.

And what's with this Christian Slater???? Is he the only person whose moved into the South Grove in recent months?

Your pal,

al crespo

May 25, 2013 11:20 AM  
Blogger Grapevine said...

You are right Al, I truly believe they want the place to become so termite ridden that it implodes on itself. But they could at least disguise their plan with a little paint and plaster on the outside to hide the termites on the inside.

As for Harry, I took those photos so he could send them to the lady who is working with the state to clean up the outside, not to send to the rest of the media in town (my competition) to make use in stories that didn't exist in their heads before they saw MY photos.

And as for Christian Slater, I promise that when you move into the Grove, there will be an announcement here, too. :)

May 25, 2013 11:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unless you signed a photo release, those photos are yours, and you retain the rights to them. You should contact the New Times and demand royalties.

May 25, 2013 11:41 AM  
Anonymous francisco alvarado said...

Hey Tom sorry for not crediting you. Assumed Gottlieb took them. That was on me for not double checking with him. I've corrected the post and credited you for the photos. If you want to discuss it further send me your phone number Again my sincere apologies. Not trying to step on your toes. Just following up on an important story.

May 25, 2013 12:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Something must be done. I say we get a bunch of grovites and theater enthusiasts together and attack the theater! Replace the wood, bug bomb the place and if we go a step forward initiate an independent theater district, take it over permanently and start hosting shows now even its done in the parking lot while the building is brought to safe standards. Our government has failed us and now we are left with anarchy whether we like it or not. Time for the community to do something even if it violates laws that are regularly ignored anyway.

May 25, 2013 1:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Love you Al. Please write more soon.

May 25, 2013 1:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Honestly, with all the seasonal tourists and myriad all-kinds-of- sports fans and many other theater venues and LITTLE PARKING and traffic issues and considering the FACT that the theater crowds were reduced to the assisted living crowd, I say keep the facade, and build more residences w/parking to accomodate the new retail and restaurants in the Grove. Millions of dollars later, the theater will go bust again, and the circle will be complete.

May 25, 2013 4:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We're talking about taking the theater out of the profit game for good. The theater needs an endowment and definitely a parking solution (we all concur). This requires a big effort but its worth it. Look around at succcessful public ventures like Kravis in WPB.

May 25, 2013 6:12 PM  
Anonymous Carol Lopez-Bethel said...

No one is focusing on the fact that there is only one road in and out of the theater area, so parking is not the only issue; but how we create more access and keep traffic moving for for those of us who live in the Grove, as well as for visitors.

Next and as important is that we already have tens of thousands of vacant retail square footage in the Grove that would remain so with additional space built at this site. Theater or no, the only one who would benefit from a mixed use development with additional retail on that site is the one who gets paid to build it. Maybe the draw of a good venue nearby would allow somewhere other than Greenstreet's and Lulu's to last more than a year. Hopefully high -rise (over 3-4 stories) residential is beyond a variation, unless the developer has friends in very high places.

The Grove has been raped enough already-please, an entertainment venue, with something other than food and shops at the theater site and something community oriented in Peacock Park. Get us a decent restaurant in Cocowalk or on Main Highway, if they want to be in the Grove.

May 25, 2013 9:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i think i should be turned into a strip club the grove really needs one

May 25, 2013 9:48 PM  
Blogger Sledge said...

A top-class strip club would be great indeed, with girls dancing in the windows like they have in Amsterdam,talk about boosting business and tourism.. plus the occasional free laptop dances for us, the Grove Residents.

May 26, 2013 11:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i second that

May 26, 2013 6:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is already a strip club in Grove called Playmates and if you want lap dances there is one place on Main Highway doing brisk business certain hours on Main Highway since last year.

May 27, 2013 10:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whats it called and playmates is in coral gable

May 27, 2013 4:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@ Carlos Lopez-B
Dude - tens of thousands of vacant retail square footage??
Where did you get those numbers???

May 28, 2013 1:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Check commercial real estate listings - there's quite a few large retail spaces listed. With the closing of Hooters, the old Tutu Tango space, Los Ranchos, Coyote Ugly, and who knows how many other stores resulting in vacancies, Cocowalk probably has well over 15,000 sq feet of space available. Then there's the pretty large Gap space across the street plus other empty storefronts. Tens of thousands of empty retail space sounds spot on.

May 28, 2013 3:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hes right theres alot of empty space actualy way more than you think.its pretty sad whats happen to my little old town.just cause some boring loser wants it to be this way we all have to suffer

May 28, 2013 4:43 PM  

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